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lavaman · 20 July 2015, 03:29 AM

and we start with what they are supposed to sound like...and a bit of a RIP to the original TG team.

and a tribute to one of the greatest....Emerson Fittipaldi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFx2D1B7Dec

SearChart · 20 July 2015, 03:35 AM

They might be supposed to sound like that but I prefer them this way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORf-d4-STY&

lavaman · 20 July 2015, 03:41 AM

As opposed to?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTJZTc1U1tM

thanks for the share. great stuff!

when I heard Jochen Rindt's f1 Lotus a few years ago, it sounded like an angry SR71 with laryngitis.

jatco · 20 July 2015, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearChart

They might be supposed to sound like that but I prefer them this way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORf-d4-STY&

Quote:

Originally Posted by lavaman

As opposed to?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTJZTc1U1tM

thanks for the share. great stuff!

when I heard Jochen Rindt's f1 Lotus a few years ago, it sounded like an angry SR71 with laryngitis.

.
.. Hard to say which is better, but either way, the changes are quite noticeable over the years...
...Monaco.. is a RUSH.. if you've ever been. Especially if you're sitting at the pit exit as they're screaming out of the pits and excellerating into turn 1..
Ear plugs were useless.......!!

Rock · 20 July 2015, 09:52 AM

Re noise: For me it's a bit like the noisy un-muffled exhaust on a Harley (or any M/C).
What's the point except to draw attention to the rider.(Look at me!)
It doesn't sound good, just loud (not the same thing unless you're 20yrs old)
Sports/Muscle cars also - there's just loud, and then there's that lovely deep burble.
You don't have to deafen people for it to sound good.
Whether it's a rock concert or a motor race, I don't want to have to wear ear-plugs to protect my hearing.

lavaman · 20 July 2015, 01:19 PM

the point of loud (loud, thoaty rumble, not loud as in rumble glass from blocks away) pipes on a motorcycle is simple (respectfully), and it is exactly to notice me:

The point of louder pipes is to alert all the cell phone chatting-FB updating-BFF texting-late-sipping-jackass-cage drivers in their hermetically sealed 4,000 lb lethal weapons who feel it is their God-given right to drive however they want to in as many lanes as they like at the same time- that I am here and don't want to die because you can't be bothered to HANG UP and DRIVE.

that is the point of loud(er) pipes. Notice I didn't say un-restricted pipes or no silencers, because those are obnoxious and disrespectful of the environment, IMHO. I want to enjoy the ride, not ruin it for everyone around ,e.

NOW, that being said, when I worked nites and kept odd hours, I also posted the following notice to my neighbors on my block:

Aloha! I frequently commute on a motorcycle. If the noise from my bike is too loud or bothers you, please let me know so that I can change my riding patterns. Thank you
-Me

My usual routine was to pop the clutch and let it roll until I was down the hill and out of the subdivision. So no, I am not one of "those guys"

As for f1, it's a race track. We don't come to hear a salad shooter shoot out.

Rock · 20 July 2015, 04:57 PM

The "justification" for overly loud exhausts is an argument usually advanced by owners of motorcycles with unduly loud exhausts.
Most car drivers won't hear a motorcycle, no matter how loud the pipes, because they have all the windows up and are doing one or more of the behaviours mentioned. (love the "latte-sipping-jackass-cage" bit!)
This won't change anytime soon and motorcyclists who want to survive quickly learn a range of protective behaviours. I rode a MC daily until my 40s.
Nobody goes to a racetrack thinking it won't be noisy, it's a question of how noisy.
I would prefer to not need ear-plugs.

lavaman · 20 July 2015, 09:56 PM

I expect things to be loud at racetracks. And I know enough physics to know that loud pipes really don't save lives, but they do get the driver's attention.

Sorry, I should have added "makeup applying"....
Didn't notice your avitar.

Oh well

Plenty to like about f1 besides the sound

zama · 20 July 2015, 10:12 PM

I love F1 and I miss the sound, but as for me the soubd of choice the purest is this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_iBsFxn08Y

20 July 2015, 03:29 AM	#1
lavaman Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Airport Watch: what happens next Posts: 1,942	the F1 thread and we start with what they are supposed to sound like...and a bit of a RIP to the original TG team. and a tribute to one of the greatest....Emerson Fittipaldi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFx2D1B7Dec

20 July 2015, 09:52 AM	#5
Rock 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Rocky Location: Australia Watch: Grail:Bluesy Posts: 17,850	Re noise: For me it's a bit like the noisy un-muffled exhaust on a Harley (or any M/C). What's the point except to draw attention to the rider.(Look at me!) It doesn't sound good, just loud (not the same thing unless you're 20yrs old) Sports/Muscle cars also - there's just loud, and then there's that lovely deep burble. You don't have to deafen people for it to sound good. Whether it's a rock concert or a motor race, I don't want to have to wear ear-plugs to protect my hearing. __________________ Cellini 4112. Sub 14060M. DJ 16233. Rotherhams 1847 Pocket-watch. Foundation Member of 'Horologists Anonymous' "Hi, I'm Rocky, and I'm a Horologist..."

20 July 2015, 04:57 PM	#7
Rock 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Rocky Location: Australia Watch: Grail:Bluesy Posts: 17,850	The "justification" for overly loud exhausts is an argument usually advanced by owners of motorcycles with unduly loud exhausts. Most car drivers won't hear a motorcycle, no matter how loud the pipes, because they have all the windows up and are doing one or more of the behaviours mentioned. (love the "latte-sipping-jackass-cage" bit!) This won't change anytime soon and motorcyclists who want to survive quickly learn a range of protective behaviours. I rode a MC daily until my 40s. Nobody goes to a racetrack thinking it won't be noisy, it's a question of how noisy. I would prefer to not need ear-plugs. __________________ Cellini 4112. Sub 14060M. DJ 16233. Rotherhams 1847 Pocket-watch. Foundation Member of 'Horologists Anonymous' "Hi, I'm Rocky, and I'm a Horologist..."

20 July 2015, 10:12 PM	#9
zama "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Craig Location: Sydney Watch: 4 Broken glass Posts: 5,808	I love F1 and I miss the sound, but as for me the soubd of choice the purest is this.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_iBsFxn08Y __________________ Day Date 118206, Daytona 116509 & 116505, AP 25859ST Gone but not forgotten and genuinely missed..... Root Beer GMT, Sub, TT Daytona, YG DD Bark, Datejust(2 his & hers), AP RO, PP Aquanaut, Lange 1, Heuer Monza, Piaget Altiplano, GP Chrono, Seamaster, Tudor Sub, Tudor Chrono, Tudor Black Bay Bronze

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20 July 2015, 03:41 AM	#3
lavaman Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Airport Watch: what happens next Posts: 1,942	As opposed to? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTJZTc1U1tM thanks for the share. great stuff! when I heard Jochen Rindt's f1 Lotus a few years ago, it sounded like an angry SR71 with laryngitis.

20 July 2015, 01:19 PM	#6
lavaman Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Airport Watch: what happens next Posts: 1,942	the point of loud (loud, thoaty rumble, not loud as in rumble glass from blocks away) pipes on a motorcycle is simple (respectfully), and it is exactly to notice me: The point of louder pipes is to alert all the cell phone chatting-FB updating-BFF texting-late-sipping-jackass-cage drivers in their hermetically sealed 4,000 lb lethal weapons who feel it is their God-given right to drive however they want to in as many lanes as they like at the same time- that I am here and don't want to die because you can't be bothered to HANG UP and DRIVE. that is the point of loud(er) pipes. Notice I didn't say un-restricted pipes or no silencers, because those are obnoxious and disrespectful of the environment, IMHO. I want to enjoy the ride, not ruin it for everyone around ,e. NOW, that being said, when I worked nites and kept odd hours, I also posted the following notice to my neighbors on my block: Aloha! I frequently commute on a motorcycle. If the noise from my bike is too loud or bothers you, please let me know so that I can change my riding patterns. Thank you -Me My usual routine was to pop the clutch and let it roll until I was down the hill and out of the subdivision. So no, I am not one of "those guys" As for f1, it's a race track. We don't come to hear a salad shooter shoot out.

20 July 2015, 09:56 PM	#8
lavaman Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Airport Watch: what happens next Posts: 1,942	I expect things to be loud at racetracks. And I know enough physics to know that loud pipes really don't save lives, but they do get the driver's attention. Sorry, I should have added "makeup applying".... Didn't notice your avitar. Oh well Plenty to like about f1 besides the sound

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