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Old 24 July 2015, 11:40 AM   #1
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Shamed for my Rolex I Think???

Earlier this week I did my usual stint of waiting out the traffic on my off day from the gym. Anyone who knows DC traffic can relate and ranks driving in it right behind root canal. So I did the fail safe activity of heading over to a Starbucks to sip on an iced coffee and play stupid mindless games on my phone.

Well in the near vicinity there's a gentleman talking to 2 millenials about planning for their financial future, how important it is and the like. Overall pretty sound advice these days given student loan debt, sluggish wages, etc. But, and this is where it gets good, I happen to make quick eye contact with him and even smile with an approval nod when he proceeds to point at my wrist and tell these young people a purchase like that os totally against sound financial planning and can wreck your future. Folks, I was wearing my SeaDweller, nothing over the top. Now my first reaction was to tell this guy to well I'll keep it clean but instead I decided to have him elaborate.

We went back and forth about frugality versus living a little and I explained yes a Rolex is not a necessity but neither is Starbucks and chances are over a lifetime you'll spend a hell of a lot more for daily caffeine fixes. All the while these young people were closely following the conversation. I was just pretty amazed this guy had the stones to lecture ME about my finances like I was a kid. Look at my user name. I'm not that young anymore. Oh well, could have been worse. Imagine if I had a DayDate on.
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Old 24 July 2015, 11:46 AM   #2
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He should have used you as an example of a man of wealth, success and good taste reaping the benefits of years of hard work and great financial planning
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Old 24 July 2015, 11:47 AM   #3
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He should have used you as an example of a man of wealth, success and good taste reaping the benefits of years of hard work and great financial planning
Exactly.
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Old 24 July 2015, 11:50 AM   #4
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Well, if they were saddled with student loan debt and on sluggish wages, a Rolex probably would be a bad move at this point. I'm sure he wasn't criticising or lecturing you personally, was he?
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Old 24 July 2015, 11:54 AM   #5
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There's all kinds. I'm not sure there is a right or wrong answer here.
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Old 24 July 2015, 11:56 AM   #6
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at 30k for a day date and 5$ a day for coffee it would take 16 years to pay it off

at 10k for a sports model it would take about 5.5 years to pay it off

no wonder howard rocks a paul newman ;)
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Old 24 July 2015, 11:58 AM   #7
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:03 PM   #8
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Personally I find it pretty amusing that he would frown upon "wasting" money on a Rolex, but yet spending $5 dollars for a freaking cup of coffee is somehow ok? talk about irony... see what you can get for that cup of coffee after "ownership". His advise is worth about the same.

a Rolex is hard to lose money on if you buy right...
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:03 PM   #9
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I'm a very happy stockholder. Howard is the man. As for myself I've done volunteer work at food pantries, and actually worked with families trying to navigate them thru the mortgage modification mine fields. I know my track record. All in all I don't begrudge the guy for trying to make a point. But these uber frugal types that buy food at the dollar stores, obsessively try to look for ways to be cheap and save I think take it to the extreme.
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:12 PM   #10
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Earlier this week I did my usual stint of waiting out the traffic on my off day from the gym. Anyone who knows DC traffic can relate and ranks driving in it right behind root canal. So I did the fail safe activity of heading over to a Starbucks to sip on an iced coffee and play stupid mindless games on my phone.

Well in the near vicinity there's a gentleman talking to 2 millenials about planning for their financial future, how important it is and the like. Overall pretty sound advice these days given student loan debt, sluggish wages, etc. But, and this is where it gets good, I happen to make quick eye contact with him and even smile with an approval nod when he proceeds to point at my wrist and tell these young people a purchase like that os totally against sound financial planning and can wreck your future. Folks, I was wearing my SeaDweller, nothing over the top. Now my first reaction was to tell this guy to well I'll keep it clean but instead I decided to have him elaborate.

We went back and forth about frugality versus living a little and I explained yes a Rolex is not a necessity but neither is Starbucks and chances are over a lifetime you'll spend a hell of a lot more for daily caffeine fixes. All the while these young people were closely following the conversation. I was just pretty amazed this guy had the stones to lecture ME about my finances like I was a kid. Look at my user name. I'm not that young anymore. Oh well, could have been worse. Imagine if I had a DayDate on.
Frankly, having money expands one's options and if you can't spend your money freely what's the point of earning it then...quite rude I think for that guy to single you out though
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:14 PM   #11
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You should have given the young ones a lesson in how bad manners to the wrong person isn't sound for the structural integrity of one's nose. What an a-hole. I rent an apartment in the area as I'm based there for work at the moment. The whole area is just filled with unpleasant boorish people. So much so that the genuinely nice and decent folks really stand out. I'm really looking forward to seeing the whole area in the rear view mirror.
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:16 PM   #12
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Earlier this week I did my usual stint of waiting out the traffic on my off day from the gym. Anyone who knows DC traffic can relate and ranks driving in it right behind root canal. So I did the fail safe activity of heading over to a Starbucks to sip on an iced coffee and play stupid mindless games on my phone.

Well in the near vicinity there's a gentleman talking to 2 millenials about planning for their financial future, how important it is and the like. Overall pretty sound advice these days given student loan debt, sluggish wages, etc. But, and this is where it gets good, I happen to make quick eye contact with him and even smile with an approval nod when he proceeds to point at my wrist and tell these young people a purchase like that os totally against sound financial planning and can wreck your future. Folks, I was wearing my SeaDweller, nothing over the top. Now my first reaction was to tell this guy to well I'll keep it clean but instead I decided to have him elaborate.

We went back and forth about frugality versus living a little and I explained yes a Rolex is not a necessity but neither is Starbucks and chances are over a lifetime you'll spend a hell of a lot more for daily caffeine fixes. All the while these young people were closely following the conversation. I was just pretty amazed this guy had the stones to lecture ME about my finances like I was a kid. Look at my user name. I'm not that young anymore. Oh well, could have been worse. Imagine if I had a DayDate on.
You couldn't have said it better. Some people will spend more money on Starbucks, cigarets, dip, etc. than someone who purchases 1-2 Rolex watches. The good side is, we can make money back by selling our investment.
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:18 PM   #13
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All in all I don't begrudge the guy.
You should begrudge his bad manners. Lack of manners is becoming a real problem in America. Manners are a cornerstone in the foundation of a healthy siciety.
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:24 PM   #14
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My 32-year-old DJ was purchased for (at the exchange rate at the time) about $1000 US, now worth probably twice this amount. Ok, not a great investment but I wouldn't consider it wasted money either, especially since it's still running great and a member of my family is happily wearing it.
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:24 PM   #15
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Maybe he took your nod of approval the wrong way?

Regardless, maybe the guy was a wis. He spotted the SD immediately?
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:27 PM   #16
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Spending money on a Rolex is spending money on art. I understand and try to live a minimalist lifestyle, but I have priorities and a beautiful watch on my wrist has become one of them.

It's funny that a guy buying Starbucks is preaching about wasted money.
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:28 PM   #17
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You should begrudge his bad manners. Lack of manners is becoming a real problem in America. Manners are a cornerstone in the foundation of a healthy siciety.
Sea and Sky I totally agree with you. But with age comes wisdom. Standing up and blowing a gasket calling him everything in the book makes him win. He can point and say "See, I told you how insecure people like hat are."

Trust me the crap that passes as entertainment and the garbage we are fed that passes as food probably contributes to the problem among other things (technology, social media, etc)
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:34 PM   #18
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Earlier this week I did my usual stint of waiting out the traffic on my off day from the gym. Anyone who knows DC traffic can relate and ranks driving in it right behind root canal. So I did the fail safe activity of heading over to a Starbucks to sip on an iced coffee and play stupid mindless games on my phone.

Well in the near vicinity there's a gentleman talking to 2 millenials about planning for their financial future, how important it is and the like. Overall pretty sound advice these days given student loan debt, sluggish wages, etc. But, and this is where it gets good, I happen to make quick eye contact with him and even smile with an approval nod when he proceeds to point at my wrist and tell these young people a purchase like that os totally against sound financial planning and can wreck your future. Folks, I was wearing my SeaDweller, nothing over the top. Now my first reaction was to tell this guy to well I'll keep it clean but instead I decided to have him elaborate.

We went back and forth about frugality versus living a little and I explained yes a Rolex is not a necessity but neither is Starbucks and chances are over a lifetime you'll spend a hell of a lot more for daily caffeine fixes. All the while these young people were closely following the conversation. I was just pretty amazed this guy had the stones to lecture ME about my finances like I was a kid. Look at my user name. I'm not that young anymore. Oh well, could have been worse. Imagine if I had a DayDate on.
It was some guy giving financial advice to some young people at a Starbucks...could've been any Joe blow that read finance.yahoo.com.

I wouldn't sweat it...frankly, a Rolex can be more of an investment than a lot of stocks.
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:34 PM   #19
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IMO, that particular financial planner is a loser in his field and begrudges successful people who have what he wants but has not been able to achieve. He could have just as easily made the case for sound financial planning and execution to allow one to prosper and acquire nice things like a Rolex. Instead he points to a watch to imply that no one can afford one and if they buy one, they must not be saving.
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:35 PM   #20
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:38 PM   #21
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I would've given him a piece of my mind but that's just me and I'm not that young either.
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:38 PM   #22
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As the kids say, "totez jelly"
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:39 PM   #23
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As the kids say, "totez jelly"
They say that?
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:41 PM   #24
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They say that?
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:45 PM   #25
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Im a 32 year old car salesman and I make on average about $70k or so a year. I don't have a wife or kids and I have a fairly decent (around $600k) inheritance headed my way. My two most expensive toys would be my $47k Mercedes that I have leased and my used $6800 Rolex Sub. A lot of people at work and friends think I waste my time but they spend a small fortune on their kids, day care expenses and on their wives which I don't. Everyone's situation is different so what is frivolous for one person isn't the same for another even if they make the same amount of money. And yes if I had kids, child support and alimony to pay every month I definitely wouldn't be rocking the benz nor the Rolex.
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Instead of getting bent out of shape opin situations like this, I simply speak very quietly and tell the other person I disagree with their poor manners. I win
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They say that?
Haha. Not just "kids".
30 somethings utter "jelly"
I'm getting old...
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Old 24 July 2015, 12:53 PM   #28
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I'm glad you challenged him. I would have probably gave him twice the ear you did, I'm not as classy. Laughable that anyone would give lessons in financial prudence from a chair at Starbucks....although I can't tell you how many laughable Financial advisor pitches I've heard in coffee shops
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Earlier this week I did my usual stint of waiting out the traffic on my off day from the gym. Anyone who knows DC traffic can relate and ranks driving in it right behind root canal. So I did the fail safe activity of heading over to a Starbucks to sip on an iced coffee and play stupid mindless games on my phone.

Well in the near vicinity there's a gentleman talking to 2 millenials about planning for their financial future, how important it is and the like. Overall pretty sound advice these days given student loan debt, sluggish wages, etc. But, and this is where it gets good, I happen to make quick eye contact with him and even smile with an approval nod when he proceeds to point at my wrist and tell these young people a purchase like that os totally against sound financial planning and can wreck your future. Folks, I was wearing my SeaDweller, nothing over the top. Now my first reaction was to tell this guy to well I'll keep it clean but instead I decided to have him elaborate.

We went back and forth about frugality versus living a little and I explained yes a Rolex is not a necessity but neither is Starbucks and chances are over a lifetime you'll spend a hell of a lot more for daily caffeine fixes. All the while these young people were closely following the conversation. I was just pretty amazed this guy had the stones to lecture ME about my finances like I was a kid. Look at my user name. I'm not that young anymore. Oh well, could have been worse. Imagine if I had a DayDate on.
You could have said that the 2 kilos you just unloaded more than paid for that watch...

Or that your sugar momma was just showing you some appreciation for a nice weekend...



If he was just using the watch as an example of choices to be made regarding money, guess that could have been OK and led to a good discussion.
Everyone on this forum probably agrees that money is simply a tool to get what we want, not an end in itself.
But if all he did was assert you made a bad choice, that was poor form.
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Old 24 July 2015, 01:06 PM   #30
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The gentleman has a point, a Rolex purchase can wreck one's financial future if done for the wrong reason. More importantly though, we, as Rolex owners do not need to justify our purchases.
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