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Mr Daytona · 18 October 2015, 12:32 PM

Do you also hate Panerai's "fake patina" on some of their watches also? I am just curious as I have seen people really poo poo the gilt dial on the Tudor Black Bay Black as well as the red one.

superdog · 18 October 2015, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Daytona

Do you also hate Panerai's "fake patina" on some of their watches also? I am just curious as I have seen people really poo poo the gilt dial on the Tudor Black Bay Black as well as the red one.

I think they both (all) look amazing.

PAM and the BB in all iterations. But I don't love the faux patina.

Not for me.

Muzz · 18 October 2015, 12:54 PM

I think they are incredible too!! Not sure why anyone would trash the style as it completely matches the design.

cdmorenot · 18 October 2015, 12:57 PM

I think the look is gorgeous. On my wrist? No, it is not my style. But the look deserves more love than it is getting.

HogwldFLTR · 18 October 2015, 12:59 PM

Why would someone dislike a gilt dial on a new watch; that doesn't make sense.

Mr Daytona · 18 October 2015, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Why would someone dislike a gilt dial on a new watch; that doesn't make sense.

I agree but it seems that there are a few people that have an issue with "remakes" of old watches I guess. I wanted to know if it was just Tudor's gilt dials or other watches too, most notably Panerais.

superdog · 18 October 2015, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Daytona

I agree but it seems that there are a few people that have an issue with "remakes" of old watches I guess. I wanted to know if it was just Tudor's gilt dials or other watches too, most notably Panerais.

Omega also has a few serious pieces with faux patina. It's clearly a pretty popular style. Very attractive watches, for sure. The speedy 1957 just released is amazing.

alanc · 18 October 2015, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by superdog

Omega also has a few serious pieces with faux patina. It's clearly a pretty popular style. Very attractive watches, for sure. The speedy 1957 just released is amazing.

Yes, saw the Omegas with faux patina. I think the Tudors pull it off better; in fact the BB is the only watch with it I'd wear, not because I have anything against faux patina philosophically, but because I think the BB black and red look so good with it.

SemperFi · 19 October 2015, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Why would someone dislike a gilt dial on a new watch; that doesn't make sense.

I totally agree with you, and I have a question about watches that show real or natural patina. Was the watch designed to age that way or is it a manufacturing defect that was unintended but turned out to be desirable because it looked so good?
Fake or not, the new Black Bay was designed to look the way it does and I think that Tudor hit a grand slam with this one.

Mr Daytona · 19 October 2015, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

I totally agree with you, and I have a question about watches that show real or natural patina. Was the watch designed to age that way or is it a manufacturing defect that was unintended but turned out to be desirable because it looked so good?
Fake or not, the new Black Bay was designed to look the way it does and I think that Tudor hit a grand slam with this one.

The older watches were not designed to show patina the way they do. Its just a by product of using the materials they had on had at the time.

Wingman244 · 19 October 2015, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi

I totally agree with you, and I have a question about watches that show real or natural patina. Was the watch designed to age that way or is it a manufacturing defect that was unintended but turned out to be desirable because it looked so good?
Fake or not, the new Black Bay was designed to look the way it does and I think that Tudor hit a grand slam with this one.

Totally agree. The new subs leave me cold, like the blue BB, but that BB Black is so off the chart beautiful. I have to have it.

Probably these same people that hate the look also use the HEFE filter on all their Instagram pictures.

SHM3 · 18 October 2015, 01:07 PM

No offense, but maybe overthinking this? It's a nice piece at a great price point. It looks good and feels good, at least for me.

Mr Daytona · 18 October 2015, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SHM3

No offense, but maybe overthinking this? It's a nice piece at a great price point. It looks good and feels good, at least for me.

I'm not overthinking anything. I love the gilt look.

themaninblack · 18 October 2015, 01:26 PM

Had a look at Speedy 57 too. Quite beautiful. Omega do it particularly well though not sure its faux patina as such, just modern remakes. Omega have an advantage over Rolex and Tudor in that their watches are generally more handsome pieces of design.

SHM3 · 18 October 2015, 01:28 PM

Not directed at you. Cheers! I think the gilt gives it a warm look.

Ravager135 · 18 October 2015, 01:30 PM

I think a gilt dial is a little different than fake patina which is usually lume based. The gilt dial is designed to impart a vintage look but it doesn't seem as obvious an attempt as fake patina lume. I like the former and am a tad more critical of the latter if not used properly.

nick c · 18 October 2015, 01:34 PM

I like it

AK797 · 18 October 2015, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravager135

I think a gilt dial is a little different than fake patina which is usually lume based. The gilt dial is designed to impart a vintage look but it doesn't seem as obvious an attempt as fake patina lume. I like the former and am a tad more critical of the latter if not used properly.

eonflux · 18 October 2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Daytona

Do you also hate Panerai's "fake patina" on some of their watches also? I am just curious as I have seen people really poo poo the gilt dial on the Tudor Black Bay Black as well as the red one.

I don't like the fake patina look
Prefer Panerai's and other watches with white lume

Lordofrolex · 18 October 2015, 02:20 PM

I'm ok with it

eightbore · 18 October 2015, 04:11 PM

Complaining about fake patina is like refusing a custom aluminum bodied Shelby Cobra or Porsche 550...you know...because it is just not authentic. :(

Hairdude1 · 18 October 2015, 04:07 PM

I like it in certain models

Punishher7 · 18 October 2015, 04:11 PM

Faux patina is not my style. Many like it however and that is fine. Different strokes for different folks.

capote · 18 October 2015, 04:26 PM

I dislike fake patina on all watches from all companies no matter if it is Tudor, JLC or Panerai.

Snow-Dweller · 18 October 2015, 04:31 PM

I have no problem with the "fake" patina......just not sure about the shape of the hands.....

B.B.B. · 18 October 2015, 04:32 PM

I don't like it unless it aged naturally

Dr. Robert · 19 October 2015, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by B.B.B.

I don't like it unless it aged naturally

I concur.

Old Expat Beast · 18 October 2015, 05:12 PM

I have no problem with appropriately shaded lume. Much prefer it to bright white.

Gasoil4ever · 18 October 2015, 05:16 PM

I am not into "brand new antiques".

I would have appreciated a re issue of the old submariner exactly built like in the old age.

eightbore · 18 October 2015, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gasoil4ever

I am not into "brand new antiques".

I would have appreciated a re issue of the old submariner exactly built like in the old age.

Except re-issues get to be a problem with materials like Radium. In a world where Luminova will probably never age, I would prefer a bit of pre-aging to something that will stay annoyingly white forever even as the rest of the watch takes on wear. Better a watch look a bit silly now with aged lume rather than silly forever when the dial and case and bracelet all have "patina" but the lume looks like it just left the factory.

18 October 2015, 12:32 PM	#1
Mr Daytona "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Mr. Daytona Location: On the water Watch: Panerai Posts: 974	For the "fake patina" haters on the Black Bay Do you also hate Panerai's "fake patina" on some of their watches also? I am just curious as I have seen people really poo poo the gilt dial on the Tudor Black Bay Black as well as the red one.

18 October 2015, 12:59 PM	#5
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18 October 2015, 12:54 PM	#3
Muzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: TO CAD, HCMC VN Watch: MP 18946 Posts: 7,292	I think they are incredible too!! Not sure why anyone would trash the style as it completely matches the design.

18 October 2015, 12:57 PM	#4
cdmorenot 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Carlos. Location: NNJ - MDE Watch: = Want them all. Posts: 3,697	I think the look is gorgeous. On my wrist? No, it is not my style. But the look deserves more love than it is getting.

18 October 2015, 01:07 PM	#12
SHM3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SWFL Posts: 359	No offense, but maybe overthinking this? It's a nice piece at a great price point. It looks good and feels good, at least for me.

18 October 2015, 01:26 PM	#14
themaninblack "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 1,058	Had a look at Speedy 57 too. Quite beautiful. Omega do it particularly well though not sure its faux patina as such, just modern remakes. Omega have an advantage over Rolex and Tudor in that their watches are generally more handsome pieces of design.

18 October 2015, 01:28 PM	#15
SHM3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SWFL Posts: 359	Not directed at you. Cheers! I think the gilt gives it a warm look.

18 October 2015, 01:30 PM	#16
Ravager135 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,224	I think a gilt dial is a little different than fake patina which is usually lume based. The gilt dial is designed to impart a vintage look but it doesn't seem as obvious an attempt as fake patina lume. I like the former and am a tad more critical of the latter if not used properly.

18 October 2015, 04:11 PM	#21
eightbore Banned Join Date: May 2014 Location: UNITED STATES Posts: 301	Complaining about fake patina is like refusing a custom aluminum bodied Shelby Cobra or Porsche 550...you know...because it is just not authentic. :(

18 October 2015, 04:11 PM	#23
Punishher7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: WA Watch: SubC/Pelagos Posts: 512	Faux patina is not my style. Many like it however and that is fine. Different strokes for different folks.

18 October 2015, 04:26 PM	#24
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	I dislike fake patina on all watches from all companies no matter if it is Tudor, JLC or Panerai.

18 October 2015, 04:31 PM	#25
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18 October 2015, 04:32 PM	#26
B.B.B. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Emmanuel Location: California, USA Watch: submariner lv m Posts: 764	I don't like it unless it aged naturally

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Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,825	I have no problem with appropriately shaded lume. Much prefer it to bright white.

18 October 2015, 05:16 PM	#29
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