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8 November 2015, 09:44 PM | #1 |
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Submariner bezel: Cerachrom with coating doubt...
Dear all,
Looking around to buy my first Rolex. I love the look of The Submariner, but have some questions/doubts on the bezel of this remarkable watch. The bezel itself is made of Cerachrom, but the numerals and graduations (etchings) are for example coated in platinum. Now, Cerachrom will stand the test of time, no doubt. But what about the platinum coating in the etchings? Will it fade away or wear away, and what about dirt accumulating in the etching? Thank you very much for your feedback! Greetings, Paul |
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12 November 2015, 12:27 PM | #3 |
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How long exactly do you need the watch to last? There are plenty of examples of aluminum bezels lasting 50 years.
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12 November 2015, 12:38 PM | #4 |
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I would not worry too much about this. My gut tells me that these will age better over the next 20 years than we will.
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14 November 2015, 06:56 AM | #6 |
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After reconsidering....I think so too :-)
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14 November 2015, 08:28 AM | #9 |
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The way I see it, if you care of your watch even remotely and don't go around bashing and rubbing the watch face in sand and rocks, the face will last as long and likely even longer than the previous aluminum models.
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My only issue is the cost if they crack, which we have seen. To replace a faded or scratched aluminum insert is $50 through an AD. From what I recall, the ceramic insert is around $1000...which is insane IMO.
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Chances of cracking the ceramic is small. |
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14 November 2015, 07:19 PM | #12 |
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The only ones that could fade in the sun is mainly the coloured red/blue myself used and often abused a SD over many years. In very hot countries with very high ultra violet rays and salt water for many hours a day for many years yet no fade or hardly any real scratches.But did replace one insert a few years ago cost then just £27 but that was after many years using as a working tool watch.
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The numbers are sprayed platinum or gold and are PVD depositions, like the black used on the PVD watches you see from customisers. It is sprayed on then the ceramic is sanded down smooth and the numbers below remain sprayed. Dirt will accumulate in any of the depressed numbers, just clean it out with warm soapy water and don't scratch at it and it will last for decades.
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The ceramic insert from a RSC is $375. I was quoted this price about two years ago, and it may of gone up since.
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Thank you all for your replies. I'm reassured
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Sub ceramic inserts are now around $450 which IMHO is a crazy price for a thin slice of ceramic.
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Compared to almost $9,000 for the watch, I don't think its that crazy. Plus there have been almost zero broken ones on this site compared to the hundreds of thousands out there.
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Well there have been zero broken aluminium ones in the countless millions out there, but they only cost just $75 and DIY to replace, I know which ones I would choose and its not ceramic.
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I have seen some ceramic inlays where the platinum has "ERODED" through tough wear and tear. As for the advice given that it will last for decades, well that is all guess work.
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I do agree Peter it is a crazy price for a thin slice of ceramic! |
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If one can afford to shell out 35K for a watch, what big deal is $375 for a bezel insert? I say it's all relative. |
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just my 2 cents. |
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Could it be fixed you think, or would only new ceramic be possible (and not only the inlays)? |
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