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Old 14 November 2015, 01:36 AM   #1
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Hello,

2774xxx

do you think that this number corresponds to the year 1970 or 1971

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Old 14 November 2015, 01:40 AM   #2
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1971 according to the Rolex document I have here.......but you will see them sold later than that, and with backs from 1970 for example.

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Old 14 November 2015, 02:21 AM   #3
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I have a 2.9m serial sub with caseback stamped IV.70, so I'd say you're in the ballpark. Can you take off caseback to check?


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Old 14 November 2015, 03:13 AM   #4
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Case-back date will not necessarily correspond with the date a watch was fully assembled and actually supplied to a Rolex territory.

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Old 14 November 2015, 05:58 PM   #5
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So HM.. can you pls elaborate?

i was under the impression that the serial number and the case back would place the watch in the right year....if not, i am searching for the wrong thing. I am searching for 1971 and some stamps on the case backs are 1172. Their serial numbers were in the 3.2mil ....so i have rejected them.

i am interested to know.

if i understand correctly... some serial numbers will place the watch as made in 1971 but then assembled in 1972....

But based on the vintage rolex serial number register, 3.2mil puts that watch in the 1972 range...

please help me understand.

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Old 14 November 2015, 07:43 PM   #6
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Yes, SN 2774xxx corresponds to the year 1970-71.
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Old 14 November 2015, 07:52 PM   #7
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Old 15 November 2015, 05:26 AM   #8
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So HM.. can you pls elaborate?

i was under the impression that the serial number and the case back would place the watch in the right year....if not, i am searching for the wrong thing. I am searching for 1971 and some stamps on the case backs are 1172. Their serial numbers were in the 3.2mil ....so i have rejected them.

i am interested to know.

if i understand correctly... some serial numbers will place the watch as made in 1971 but then assembled in 1972....

But based on the vintage rolex serial number register, 3.2mil puts that watch in the 1972 range...

please help me understand.
You are falling into the Internet Chart trap.

You cannot absolutely "date" your watch as you are attempting to do. Charts and stamps are estimates. Nobody knows exactly when the watch was assembled, stamped, marketed, or sold (unless receipted).

The charts were assembled (and not provided by Rolex) after much research, for research. To consider them as absolutes is a stretch; you should consider them as close-enough for your target.
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Old 15 November 2015, 06:49 AM   #9
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please help me understand.
As Tools said, but I can elaborate a bit.

The charts you find have been assembled by compiling information about sales dates, case back stamps and bracelet stamps to get a rough estimate on when a watch might have been made/assembled just by looking at its serial number.

As far as I know Rolex at least made their watches, case backs and bracelet in batches so they will never be exactly right. So a watch sold in -73 might have a -72 bracelet and -71 case back. When the case was stamped is anybodies guess and it must have been assembled before the sales date and after the case back stamp in my example. You will not get closer than that. Personally I would go with the sales date, that's when it was taken into action.
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Old 15 November 2015, 12:24 PM   #10
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As Tools said, but I can elaborate a bit.

The charts you find have been assembled by compiling information about sales dates, case back stamps and bracelet stamps to get a rough estimate on when a watch might have been made/assembled just by looking at its serial number.

As far as I know Rolex at least made their watches, case backs and bracelet in batches so they will never be exactly right. So a watch sold in -73 might have a -72 bracelet and -71 case back. When the case was stamped is anybodies guess and it must have been assembled before the sales date and after the case back stamp in my example. You will not get closer than that. Personally I would go with the sales date, that's when it was taken into action.
sorry to tostan for threadjacking.....

Thanx Tools and Fredrik
OK.. but if the vendor does not have that Sales date information, i will have to, at best, use the serial number and the case back stamp to closely verify how close it is to the year 1971.

Would that be correct?

hmm i need to re visit the watches that i have rejected.... The search continues.
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