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Old 5 March 2016, 06:02 AM   #1
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Advice on Vintage Double Red Sea Dweller 1665

Hi all. I'm new to posting but have found immense value in the forum from an information perspective with my previous purchases, I thank you wholeheartedly for that. I have a 5512 and 16750 and i'm considering a DRSD MkIII 1665. This makes a significant step up cost wise and I need some expert opinion on the piece i'm looking at.

The watch comes without box and papers or bracelet. It's being offered by a jeweler in NYC (great guy that I have dealt with previously) but he obviously wants to move the piece, so I'm looking for some unbiased opinions.

My concerns are as follows, pictures accompanying -
Dial - Slight damage at bottom edge to the left and underneath the 'swiss'.
Hands - Very different color to the lume plots
Bezel - Seems like a replacement
Date disk - Seems a little white, could it be a service disk?

As you can see, it's unpolished, and seems pretty original.

Would love thoughts on the watch. Any suggestion of value? Should I avoid because of the dial damage?

Many thanks in advance.
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Old 5 March 2016, 06:23 AM   #2
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Damaged dial kills watch value and personally wouldn't think twice because of that alone.
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Old 5 March 2016, 06:25 AM   #3
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It will all come down to price and if you would be happy with the dial. The insert is a later service replacement.
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Old 5 March 2016, 07:07 AM   #4
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move along... if you go for one pick one in great condition and don't compromise beause you'll regret it
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Old 5 March 2016, 07:46 AM   #5
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These are high value items for a relatively small and very select audience of experienced collectors. The damaged dial will make it very very difficult to re-sell later.
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Old 5 March 2016, 08:32 AM   #6
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The damaged dial is the main reason to pass, IMHO, but the mismatched patina on the hands would drive me nuts, and also raise some questions. What's the asking price?
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Old 5 March 2016, 08:51 AM   #7
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Thanks for these responses all.

Asking price is 21,500
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Old 5 March 2016, 09:13 AM   #8
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Advice on Vintage Double Red Sea Dweller 1665

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Old 5 March 2016, 09:32 AM   #9
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Thanks for these responses all.

Asking price is 21,500
$ I presume??
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Old 5 March 2016, 09:45 AM   #10
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Pass without hesitation.
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Old 5 March 2016, 10:01 AM   #11
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Pass. Too many issues.
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Old 5 March 2016, 10:18 AM   #12
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I bought a perfect mk3 with 2 bracelets for that.
Not easy but if you are patient.
That one would need to be much cheaper.
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At that price point, you should never settle. I'd rather pay more for a better example, than less for a flawed example.
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Old 5 March 2016, 01:54 PM   #14
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I bought a perfect mk3 with 2 bracelets for that.
Not easy but if you are patient.
That one would need to be much cheaper.

$21k for a perfect mk3 is an amazing deal

And mk3 is more rare yes? well done
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Old 5 March 2016, 03:30 PM   #15
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Pass. Too many issues.
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Old 5 March 2016, 03:59 PM   #16
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If it were $10K less, then the advice might be different.........
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As you can see, it's unpolished, and seems pretty original.
Look at the lug holes, they are rounded, this is because it has been polished.

The condition it is in I would describe as "polished a long time ago and now scratched up again".

And I also think you should pass because of the damaged dial.
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I took would pass because of the dial..
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Look for something else
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If it were $10K less, then the advice might be different.........
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Old 6 March 2016, 03:05 AM   #21
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Pass. That insert is from a non plexi sub / sea dweller. That dial is a no no. Don't buy a project like this....
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Old 6 March 2016, 03:52 AM   #22
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It also had a ratty band that gnawed on the lug inners. Look at the pic where it's flipped over.
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At that price point, you should never settle. I'd rather pay more for a better example, than less for a flawed example.
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Old 6 March 2016, 07:58 AM   #24
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Hard Pass. Nothing on it is really in good shape and the price doesn't reflect that.
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Pass, without a doubt.
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