15202 in pool?

[Starguru]

Does anyone wear their jumbo in the pool? How about the beach?

On vacation in Florida. Dropping the jumbo off at Clearwater tomorrow for the 2yr inspection. Never brought the watch in the water. Wonder if now is a good time...


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[martinr]

I used to wash mine off with soap and water in the kitchen sink under running water but carefully and no problems.

[Starguru]

Originally Posted by martinr

I used to wash mine off with soap and water in the kitchen sink under running water but carefully and no problems.

So u brought yours to the beach?

[martinr]

Originally Posted by Starguru

So u brought yours to the beach?

If you mean did I swim in the ocean with it, no I didn't.

[Starguru]

Originally Posted by martinr

If you mean did I swim in the ocean with it, no I didn't.

Hmm yeah that is the question. I have my Rolex with me which seems better suited to beach duty. But my jumbo is going away for a few weeks....

[FTE2014]

I don't wear any of my watches to the beach. Last time I did that, I ended up with a few relatively light scratches on my 5167. Even my rolexes are for desk diving only. I think these watches were a fraction of today's price when people actually used them to dive. My beach watch is a Casio G-shock :)

[sebastien1975]

No way i would swim with my 15202. That's where Rolex comes in handy.

[Starguru]

Originally Posted by sebastien1975

No way i would swim with my 15202. That's where Rolex comes in handy.

Yeah that was my initial thought as well. Asked on the forum just to verify I wasn't being too careful..

[samuelhuntington]

Originally Posted by FTE2014

I don't wear any of my watches to the beach. Last time I did that, I ended up with a few relatively light scratches on my 5167. Even my rolexes are for desk diving only. I think these watches were a fraction of today's price when people actually used them to dive. My beach watch is a Casio G-shock :)

I think many use their Rolex now as they did then. Prices back in the day seem cheap to us now but they were still expensive to people for the time. A Rolex submariner was hundreds of dollars in the days where you could get a cup of coffee and a muffin for a quarter. I do everything with my sub and it has the battle scars to prove it.

To the op, I would not wear your jumbo to the beach. Why risk it if you have another option?

[ec00421]

i know its a 50m-rated watch, but personally would never take a watch with pull-out crown to the pool.

[dchang81]

i have gone swimming with mine. had mine pressure checked. it is rated at 50m and AP states no issues with swimming as long as it's pressure checked.

[scimps]

Originally Posted by ejsc421

i know its a 50m-rated watch, but personally would never take a watch with pull-out crown to the pool.

Huh? Just pull out? No untwisting and pushing inwards at the same time??

I'd appreciate this info cos I obviously didn't check when I last fondled one in the AD .... I'm still on the fence re buying one

[psv]

Originally Posted by sebastien1975

No way i would swim with my 15202. That's where Rolex comes in handy.

This times ten. As much as I liked my APs, they are way too scratch-prone to take them to the beach.

[Starguru]

Ended up not taking it in the pool. Figured that's a job better suited for another...


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[Hairdude1]

Originally Posted by Starguru

Ended up not taking it in the pool. Figured that's a job better suited for another...


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[lapince]

Originally Posted by ejsc421

i know its a 50m-rated watch, but personally would never take a watch with pull-out crown to the pool.

Exactly, plus 50m while can be in the water is really not supposed to be worn if diving or swimming as the movement in the water can increase the water pressure and you could put water inside, even the Nautilus 5712 with screw down crown and 60m is according to some not made for swimming and that sace swimming starts at 100m

[Daytonaman799]

I wore mine everywhere and it was fine

[el1125]

I wear my gold 15202 in the pool, to the beach etc. no issue

[el1125]

Originally Posted by lapince

Exactly, plus 50m while can be in the water is really not supposed to be worn if diving or swimming as the movement in the water can increase the water pressure and you could put water inside, even the Nautilus 5712 with screw down crown and 60m is according to some not made for swimming and that sace swimming starts at 100m

Not sure where you heard that but you are wrong. A 50m watch is waterproof to 50M! That's what it means 50M! You can submurge watch up to 50M with NO problems! Unless of coarse you leave the crown out or there is a break/crack in the watch while going under! Every Nautilus is water proof! 5712 to 60M! RM 11 to 50M! No hay problema!!

[hoanghung45]

deployment clasp + single lock crown. No, thanks

[RinkRolex]

My 15400, yes. 15202, no.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by el1125

Not sure where you heard that but you are wrong. A 50m watch is waterproof to 50M! That's what it means 50M! You can submurge watch up to 50M with NO problems! Unless of coarse you leave the crown out or there is a break/crack in the watch while going under! Every Nautilus is water proof! 5712 to 60M! RM 11 to 50M! No hay problema!!

Not entirely true. it is waterproof to 50M in a static environment. 50M water resistance in a perfect conditions, in a laboratory. Swimming even at the surface increases the water pressure pushing onto the watch and its quite easy to achieve the equivalent of 50M water pressure at depths no where near 50M.

[Lordofrolex]

Don't have an RO but I would totally swim with mine. But now thinking about why would I. Might as well wear my PAM or GMT in the water.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by el1125

Not sure where you heard that but you are wrong. A 50m watch is waterproof to 50M! That's what it means 50M! You can submurge watch up to 50M with NO problems! Unless of coarse you leave the crown out or there is a break/crack in the watch while going under! Every Nautilus is water proof! 5712 to 60M! RM 11 to 50M! No hay problema!!

Well I heard this as is stated below by Tyler and it is exactly what I have heard, 50/60m is perfect for being static in the water, when I am in the pool or sea I am everything but static and what is written below is exactly what I had heard before, apart my AP diver, and one of the 2 watches I ordered I would not swim with a 5712/15202, especially with the RO, the CE diver is probably the best bet, good WR and unscratchable, good one for real swimming

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Not entirely true. it is waterproof to 50M in a static environment. 50M water resistance in a perfect conditions, in a laboratory. Swimming even at the surface increases the water pressure pushing onto the watch and its quite easy to achieve the equivalent of 50M water pressure at depths no where near 50M.

Exactly how I figured it was, the drawings and depths are very helpful, thanks

[VaRobot]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Swimming even at the surface increases the water pressure pushing onto the watch and its quite easy to achieve the equivalent of 50M water pressure at depths no where near 50M.

I could possibly see a hydraulic pressure shock load from a water ski impact, but your 50M "pressure" from swimming makes no sense to me. 1 atmosphere, 33 feet = 14.7 psi. If we assume I am swimming, etc 50 Meters would be exerting 492 feet divided by 33, for number or atmospheres, times 14.7 = 219psi pressure.

I have a difficult time imagining I could exert 219 psi on any part of my body(or watch) while swimming.

Am I missing something? Perhaps some type of hydraulic shock load?

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by VaRobot

I could possibly see a hydraulic pressure shock load from a water ski impact, but your 50M "pressure" from swimming makes no sense to me. 1 atmosphere, 33 feet = 14.7 psi. If we assume I am swimming, etc 50 Meters would be exerting 492 feet divided by 33, for number or atmospheres, times 14.7 = 219psi pressure.

I have a difficult time imagining I could exert 219 psi on any part of my body(or watch) while swimming.

Am I missing something? Perhaps some type of hydraulic shock load?

Sudden and rapid changes in pressure such as diving (even shallow diving) into a pool, or the force of plunging your arm into the water while swimming will stress the gaskets even though it may only be for a fraction of a second. If the gaskets are not in optimum condition they may fail the watch to take in water. Temperature changes also affect it, as in taking a hot watch that has been sitting poolside for an hour or two on your wrist and than submerging it in cold water. Gaskets will expand and then contract suddenly. Its possible to wear it in the pool, but i know of no watch manufacture that says a 50M watch is "recommended for swimming". There are lots of variables in play in a real world environment and the lab tested 50M water resistance takes NONE of that into account. What i meant by "equivalent to 50M" was based on variables. Temperature change, sudden pressure change, maybe an older gasket, ETC. All of those things together could affect the WR past the point of the 50M lab certification.

[el1125]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Sudden and rapid changes in pressure such as diving (even shallow diving) into a pool, or the force of plunging your arm into the water while swimming will stress the gaskets even though it may only be for a fraction of a second. If the gaskets are not in optimum condition they may fail the watch to take in water. Temperature changes also affect it, as in taking a hot watch that has been sitting poolside for an hour or two on your wrist and than submerging it in cold water. Gaskets will expand and then contract suddenly. Its possible to wear it in the pool, but i know of no watch manufacture that says a 50M watch is "recommended for swimming"

i guess you now need to better define swimming. I dont actually do laps with my watches. I just relax in the pool, very rarely if it all. Do you not think 50M of water resistance is enough for that activity? All I can say is I have done this with my RM 11, AP RO 15202, AP ROO, Nautilus 5980, Rolex. Never ever had a problem. Maybe im lucky and very careful...

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by el1125

i guess you now need to better define swimming. I dont actually do laps with my watches. I just relax in the pool, very rarely if it all. Do you not think 50M of water resistance is enough for that activity? All I can say is I have done this with my RM 11, AP RO 15202, AP ROO, Nautilus 5980, Rolex. Never ever had a problem. Maybe im lucky and very careful...

Maybe you are lucky, its possible to do it and it may not fail, but you are clearly pushing your luck. Margin for error is a good thing and I prefer not to get so close to the edge with WR. I am basing my opinions on manufacture recommendations. At the end of the day, it will always work, until the one time it doesn't.

[AMCK87]

I don't think that it would be an issue as long as you were careful not to ding it and to clean it nicely afterwards but I've always found the pool/ocean to be better suited for my SS Rolex.

[dchang81]

AP says 50m is fine for swimming. Patek says the same for their 60m nautilus so unless you know something the mfg doesnt...