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muvvin · 14 May 2016, 04:22 AM

Hey everyone! Long time listener, first time caller.

I've encountered a very interesting Oyster Perpetual, and after a cursory scouring of the internet, I've come up blank. Does anyone have any tidbits they could share on this puppy, or an idea of value?

The caseback reads 6565 struck-out by the factory, with 6564 stamped underneath, which I do not believe was an uncommon occurence.

Now shown in the pictures is the original riveted flex band, if that information is of any help.

Any ideas? Happy Friday!

motoikkyu · 14 May 2016, 04:28 AM

I think it has a certain charm. I love the 1030 movement.

muvvin · 14 May 2016, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by motoikkyu

I think it has a certain charm. I love the 1030 movement.

I agree! I'm curious as to how it will look without the flaking lacquer. The dial transcended tropical and went straight for volcanic.

Widows Son · 14 May 2016, 04:41 AM

I've never seen a Masonic dial like that in my life, and I have numerous Masonic dialed watches. The markers will usually be the working tools, and sometimes there will be the square and compasses in the center with the letter "G."

muvvin · 14 May 2016, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Widows Son

I've never seen a Masonic dial like that in my life, and I have numerous Masonic dialed watches. The markers will usually be the working tools, and sometimes there will be the square and compasses in the center with the letter "G."

I haven't had any luck finding a similar dial, either. I haven't been able to find any details on the Masonic symbol on the left of the dial.

R.W.T. · 14 May 2016, 08:14 PM

The watch was work on at N we Y ork R olex in Jan. 67.

6565 is the same watch with engine turned bezel.

Verdi · 14 May 2016, 08:27 PM

I have seen other watches with masonic symbols but not a Rolex.

The symbols are well known: the square and compass is their logo. Has many variations, this one has the sun in the middle.

artschool · 14 May 2016, 09:05 PM

the 128 in the triangle is probably the lodge number.

Widows Son · 14 May 2016, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by artschool

the 128 in the triangle is probably the lodge number.

Possibly. The other symbol is a Past Masters emblem. I once saw a DayDate on e-bay with some sort of Masonic Dial, asking price like $13,000!!!! I don't know if Rolex ever made a Masonic dial, I would doubt it.

muvvin · 15 May 2016, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Widows Son

Possibly. The other symbol is a Past Masters emblem. I once saw a DayDate on e-bay with some sort of Masonic Dial, asking price like $13,000!!!! I don't know if Rolex ever made a Masonic dial, I would doubt it.

Oh, that's what the symbol is! Thanks for the information.

alexkarbo · 17 May 2016, 11:16 AM

Wisconsin Rapids Freemasons Lodge #128 would make sense...

MILGAUSS88 · 17 May 2016, 11:47 AM

I am guessing that a jeweler added the masonic symbols, then put a shellac or lacquer over the whole dial.
The shellac then peeling off and causing the damage to the dial.

MILGAUSS88 · 17 May 2016, 11:34 PM

Looking at the photo on my computer instead of the phone, I think that it is just the shellac that is peeling off, the paint appears to still be all there.
You might be able to brush the loose shellac off.

jacko1 · 18 May 2016, 12:43 AM

yeah have that cleaned up ,i kinda like it

muvvin · 25 May 2016, 05:20 AM

Got it cleaned up! It looks pretty nice!

jacko1 · 25 May 2016, 05:39 AM

i like it

Thenicknackman · 26 May 2016, 08:55 PM

That's a nice interesting masonic watch.
If no special connection to you, may be worth contacting the secretary of 128 lodge, as described earlier, as someone may be interested in it!
Just a thought.

14 May 2016, 04:28 AM	#2
motoikkyu 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: PRJ Posts: 1,732	I think it has a certain charm. I love the 1030 movement. __________________ "Do you like Breitling?" "I don't know, really, I've never been Breitled"

14 May 2016, 08:27 PM	#7
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	I have seen other watches with masonic symbols but not a Rolex. The symbols are well known: the square and compass is their logo. Has many variations, this one has the sun in the middle. __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

25 May 2016, 05:20 AM	#15
muvvin "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Bozeman Posts: 5	Got it cleaned up! It looks pretty nice! Attached Images

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14 May 2016, 04:22 AM	#1
muvvin "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Bozeman Posts: 5	Freemason Rolex Oyster Perpetual Reference 6564 Caliber 1030 Hey everyone! Long time listener, first time caller. I've encountered a very interesting Oyster Perpetual, and after a cursory scouring of the internet, I've come up blank. Does anyone have any tidbits they could share on this puppy, or an idea of value? The caseback reads 6565 struck-out by the factory, with 6564 stamped underneath, which I do not believe was an uncommon occurence. Now shown in the pictures is the original riveted flex band, if that information is of any help. Any ideas? Happy Friday! Attached Images

14 May 2016, 04:41 AM	#4
Widows Son "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hudson Ohio Posts: 3,564	I've never seen a Masonic dial like that in my life, and I have numerous Masonic dialed watches. The markers will usually be the working tools, and sometimes there will be the square and compasses in the center with the letter "G."

14 May 2016, 08:14 PM	#6
R.W.T. "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,004	The watch was work on at N we Y ork R olex in Jan. 67. 6565 is the same watch with engine turned bezel.

14 May 2016, 09:05 PM	#8
artschool "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: uk Posts: 1,215	the 128 in the triangle is probably the lodge number.

17 May 2016, 11:16 AM	#11
alexkarbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: canada Posts: 136	Wisconsin Rapids Freemasons Lodge #128 would make sense...

17 May 2016, 11:47 AM	#12
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,192	I am guessing that a jeweler added the masonic symbols, then put a shellac or lacquer over the whole dial. The shellac then peeling off and causing the damage to the dial.

17 May 2016, 11:34 PM	#13
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,192	Looking at the photo on my computer instead of the phone, I think that it is just the shellac that is peeling off, the paint appears to still be all there. You might be able to brush the loose shellac off.

18 May 2016, 12:43 AM	#14
jacko1 Banned Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Jack Nunez Location: san clemente Posts: 93	yeah have that cleaned up ,i kinda like it

25 May 2016, 05:39 AM	#16
jacko1 Banned Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Jack Nunez Location: san clemente Posts: 93	i like it

26 May 2016, 08:55 PM	#17
Thenicknackman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Merseyside Posts: 53	That's a nice interesting masonic watch. If no special connection to you, may be worth contacting the secretary of 128 lodge, as described earlier, as someone may be interested in it! Just a thought.

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