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Old 16 October 2016, 12:37 AM   #1
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1675 GMT Question

Hi guys!

Noobie to this forum, so please pardon me if I'm putting this in the wrong place or asking an inappropriate question.

I'm interested to know what you guys think of this ref 1675 GMT II. According to the seller, the serial number is 8xx,xxx dating it to 1961. The date wheel has the open 6/9 and the case has the printed crown guards, but I'm not sure about the dial and the hands. From what little I know, it should say only Swiss at the bottom and the hour hand should have the smaller red triangle. Also the seller says it's a gilt dial in the title but then says matte in the description. Looks matte to me, but I'm not 100% sure that's it's not just an aged gilt. I love the patina on the insert.

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Old 16 October 2016, 11:44 AM   #2
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For more info, the seller is Beacon Hill Jewelry on eBay. Here's the link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/282214006861
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Old 16 October 2016, 02:38 PM   #3
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1675 GMT Question

Insert is fake

I'll let more qualified members comment on the watch. It's a purported PCG, so dial is at least later.


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Old 16 October 2016, 04:59 PM   #4
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Search this section and Buyers/Sellers section for Beacon Hill. A load of trouble.
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Old 16 October 2016, 05:05 PM   #5
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PCG 1675s are the most common "passable" fakes.


I don't like this watch. "Aged" insert smells fishy.
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Old 16 October 2016, 05:52 PM   #6
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Pass on that one...
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Old 16 October 2016, 06:44 PM   #7
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Looks a little touched.
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Old 16 October 2016, 09:15 PM   #8
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Old 16 October 2016, 11:25 PM   #9
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Thanks guys. I just read up on Beacon Hill Jewelers, and all I can say is wow. There's a seller to stay away from! Sorry for wasting people's time, but I appreciate the feedback.
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Old 17 October 2016, 06:26 AM   #10
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Just for my own education, am I correct that (in addition to the fake insert) it's the wrong dial and wrong 24 hour hand for a 1961 ref 1675?
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Old 18 October 2016, 02:02 PM   #11
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Just for my own education, am I correct that (in addition to the fake insert) it's the wrong dial and wrong 24 hour hand for a 1961 ref 1675?


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Old 19 October 2016, 02:11 AM   #12
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Can I bother you guys for opinions on two others -- these are two-tone 1675s:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/282198408077...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (This one is from a seller that seems to have a good reputation with this forum, Ermitage Jewelers)

And: http://www.ebay.com/itm/201669818269...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (seller is EmpireTimeNYC, who I can't find any info about. The jubilee band looks to be an aftermarket add)

Should I start a separate thread? Do longtime members hate these types of questions?
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Old 19 October 2016, 04:48 PM   #13
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Dude, stop with the eBay gambling and buy from a trusted seller on this forum. There's plenty of these watches genuine here. Jacek is a good vintage seller from whom I've bought 2.


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Old 20 October 2016, 12:06 AM   #14
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Springer on this forum sells a ton of vintage GMT; he's our resident guru. Maybe consider buying one from him?


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Old 20 October 2016, 04:44 AM   #15
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Old 1 November 2016, 04:50 AM   #16
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Crap. I wish I read this post before. I bought a vintage Omega SM300 (big triangle) from Beacon Hill Jewelers about 2 weeks ago:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282223800013...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I received the watch (finally, it took Beacon Hill Jewelers forever to ship it). The watch looks genuine. However, there's no way this watch was serviced recently. The movement has some dirt on it, it's very difficult to set the time, and I can't wind the watch using the crown. The bezel stem is also missing.

I opened a case on eBay. Let's see how things go.
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