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Old 29 October 2016, 04:22 AM   #1
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Beware of Photon - Bought parts and filed a Paypal Dispute

Hi member,
Please beware of this member, he bought something from me and acknowledge receiving it.

Then filed a paypal dispute saying that the parts were not genuine. Yet I have pictures and texts from him showing me the parts in his possession and he got everything that was stated in the FS thread.
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Old 29 October 2016, 04:55 AM   #2
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Can you please elaborate some more?
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I have PM'd the member in question, and asked for him to respond to this thread.

Sales thread.
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=502031
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Old 29 October 2016, 05:17 AM   #4
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Can you please elaborate some more?
Sure. So he bought the 116660 bezel kit I had for Sale.

Once it was delivered I followed up with him to see if everything made it safely. He replied saying yes he did. In fact sent me pictures of the bezel on his watch.

But then filed a claim with paypal saying the parts are not genuine and they don't fit. I think he is trying to fit this gen bezel on a fake replica





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Old 29 October 2016, 06:04 AM   #5
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Old 29 October 2016, 06:08 AM   #6
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Thanks for the explanation.
Thank you

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Old 29 October 2016, 06:20 AM   #7
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Without feeding into this bashing Sach is doing, In a nutshell Sach sold me a bezel with a damaged pearl. He also promised good fitment which was not the case. I asked to return and he got violent, threatening and rude. He told me to file a dispute, dared me to and in desperation I did. I was not going to post anything at all so as to not take part in a bad situation but what else can I do. I just want a refund, I even offered to cover shipping but he has refused and instead gone online to bash me.
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Old 29 October 2016, 07:09 AM   #8
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Old 29 October 2016, 10:06 AM   #9
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Repgeek? That's a replica forum, why is he called Dave Repgeek? Seems a bit strange......
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Old 29 October 2016, 10:11 AM   #10
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Without feeding into this bashing Sach is doing, In a nutshell Sach sold me a bezel with a damaged pearl. He also promised good fitment which was not the case. I asked to return and he got violent, threatening and rude. He told me to file a dispute, dared me to and in desperation I did. I was not going to post anything at all so as to not take part in a bad situation but what else can I do. I just want a refund, I even offered to cover shipping but he has refused and instead gone online to bash me.
Are you trying to install the bezel on a replica?

You claim that the set I sold you is missing a piece, can you direct all the members here at what part were you expecting to get that wasn't included nor listed on the sales thread?


In regards to the bezel, all the pictures were sent to you and you saw these pictures on the listings as well.









Are you saying that you never saw these pictures? Can you share some pictures of ur gen deepsea watch and the gen bezel you got from me here?

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what's this proper ring that you are talking about here? Now you have changed your story to a damaged pearl?

Please enlighten us

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Old 29 October 2016, 10:19 AM   #12
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@photon is accusing me of being violent and becoming threatening bcz he thinks he will get the sympathy vote.

He actually threatened that if I don't do what he wants he will call his credit card company and file a dispute and tell them that I sold him a fake part.

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Old 29 October 2016, 10:25 AM   #13
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He actually threatened that if I don't do what he wants he will call his credit card company and file a dispute and tell them that I sold him a fake part.

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Old 29 October 2016, 10:26 AM   #14
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Old 29 October 2016, 10:36 AM   #15
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Contacting RWI, repgeek, rwg and Rolex forum? This is kinda weird. Why all the references to fake forums?
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If the parts are genuine, and the buyer returned them in same condition they went out, why not a refund?

My 2¢ - when I sell a damaged part, I clearly disclose it...
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Old 29 October 2016, 10:43 AM   #17
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Contacting RWI, repgeek, rwg and Rolex forum? This is kinda weird. Why all the references to fake forums?
Well now that you ask, he is on all those forums. What does that change? I did search him as he had barely any activity here.

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Old 29 October 2016, 10:44 AM   #18
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If the parts are genuine, and the buyer returned them in same condition they went out, why not a refund?

My 2¢ - when I sell a damaged part, I clearly disclose it...
Because there is a lot of fraud. What if he returns me a fake part or returns a broken piece?

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If the parts are genuine, and the buyer returned them in same condition they went out, why not a refund?

My 2¢ - when I sell a damaged part, I clearly disclose it...
I agree with full disclosure.

I also suspect the bezel was intended for installation onto a fake - otherwise why all the references to fake forums and the guy is stored on his phone as "Dave repgeek" (repgeek being a fake watch forum)

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Well now that you ask, he is on all those forums. What does that change? I did search him as he had barely any activity here.

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Doesn't change a thing , however knowing he is a member I would suspect very strongly he is trying to fit it to a fake watch, and maybe it doesn't fit so he wants his money back.
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Old 29 October 2016, 10:51 AM   #21
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I agree with full disclosure.

I also suspect the bezel was intended for installation onto a fake - otherwise why all the references to fake forums and the guy is stored on his phone as "Dave repgeek" (repgeek being a fake watch forum)

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Just to that point I can't guarantee fitment of gen pieces on non gen watches.
The buyer is claiming that it's missing a ring yet wouldn't post what piece is missing from my initial sales thread.

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Old 29 October 2016, 10:52 AM   #22
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Doesn't change a thing , however knowing he is a member I would suspect very strongly he is trying to fit it to a fake watch, and maybe it doesn't fit so he wants his money back.
You are absolutely right. That's what he has claimed in his texts.

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Old 29 October 2016, 11:22 AM   #23
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Sure. So he bought the 116660 bezel kit I had for Sale.

Once it was delivered I followed up with him to see if everything made it safely. He replied saying yes he did. In fact sent me pictures of the bezel on his watch.

But then filed a claim with paypal saying the parts are not genuine and they don't fit. I think he is trying to fit this gen bezel on a fake replica





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In the text message he writes about the comparison and dissimilarity with a "gen" nylon and the other piece, I assume he's comparing to a fake
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In the text message he writes about the comparison and dissimilarity with a "gen" and the other piece, I assume he's comparing to a fake
Yes he is.

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Old 29 October 2016, 11:27 AM   #25
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Yes he is.

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I see, pretty black and white now as I see it.

However let him fight his corner and defend himself by posting a good quality picture face on of his watch he is trying to fit it onto.
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Well now that you ask, he is on all those forums. What does that change? I did search him as he had barely any activity here.

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Are you also in the business of selling 'replica' parts on 'replica' forums?
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Are you also in the business of selling 'replica' parts on 'replica' forums?
No I am not. I don't sell replica parts.

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Old 29 October 2016, 12:04 PM   #28
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He tried to fit a genuine assembly onto a junk fake watch (why I have no idea) that's like putting lipstick on a pig lol
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Old 29 October 2016, 12:23 PM   #29
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Because there is a lot of fraud. What if he returns me a fake part or returns a broken piece?

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If he returned a different part then you wouldn't refund the money of course. I mentioned "in the same condition".

Could you elaborate on why the damage wasn't disclosed in your listing? I get that the damage was in the photo.
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@photon is accusing me of being violent and becoming threatening bcz he thinks he will get the sympathy vote.

He actually threatened that if I don't do what he wants he will call his credit card company and file a dispute and tell them that I sold him a fake part.

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Where is proof of this threat?
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