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Uncle-AJ · 12 April 2006, 10:48 PM

Here's a little known fact, it was 400 years ago today that James I decreed that the flag of Scotland and England (St Andrew's cross and St George's cross) be combined and flown on Naval vessels. It was not until 1801 that the flag of Ireland (St Patrick's cross) was added to make the Union Jack we know today.

Most loyal Englishmen, Scotsmen, Irishmen and Welshmen most probably still prefer their individual flags, I know I do.

12 April 2006, 10:56 PM

Congrats to the UK on this momentous birthday.

We had 'Jack' in the corner of our national flag until the year I was born, 1965, when the current maple leaf flag was born. While I like the commonwealth connection, I'm happy we don't have the Jack on our national flag anymore. However, it is still in the corner of most Canadian provincial/territorial flags and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it's still on our Air Force and Navy ensigns.

As a side note, I have the full size (8.5' X 4.5') union jack my grandfather brought back from WW1, where this flag flew representing Canada at Passchendaele, the Somme and Vimy Ridge.

padi56 · 12 April 2006, 11:27 PM

Yes agree with you Adrian dont mind the Union Jack but prefer my own national flag.

Goodwatch · 13 April 2006, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

Here's a little known fact, it was 400 years ago today that James I decreed that the flag of Scotland and England (St Andrew's cross and St George's cross) be combined and flown on Naval vessels. It was not until 1701 that the flag of Ireland (St Patrick's cross) was added to make the Union Jack we know today.

Most loyal Englishmen, Scotsmen, Irishmen and Welshmen most probably still prefer their individual flags, I know I do.

http://flagspot.net/flags/gb-hist.html

Uncle-AJ · 13 April 2006, 12:48 AM

oops just noticed my mistake with the second date. Good link Frans.

Uncle-AJ · 13 April 2006, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

As a side note, I have the full size (8.5' X 4.5') union jack my grandfather brought back from WW1, where this flag flew representing Canada at Passchendaele, the Somme and Vimy Ridge.

Now that's something worth treasuring.

13 April 2006, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

Now that's something worth treasuring.

It absolutely is and I do. I've been meaning to get it properly mounted but I need a huge wallspace to display it. And even a plexiglass cover would weigh a ton for that size. So it sits properly stored, all folded up. But it's in great shape, despite a few holes.

It's made of wool and was manufactured in Peterborough, Ontario. Kind of cool that it journeyed to Europe and made it back from 'the war to end all wars' particularly cuz my grandad took about a year to get home, cuz he basically hitch hiked his way around the world on various ships, partying his 'arse' off.

mailman · 13 April 2006, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

Congrats to the UK on this momentous birthday.

We had 'Jack' in the corner of our national flag until the year I was born, 1965, when the current maple leaf flag was born. While I like the commonwealth connection, I'm happy we don't have the Jack on our national flag anymore. However, it is still in the corner of most Canadian provincial/territorial flags and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it's still on our Air Force and Navy ensigns.

As a side note, I have the full size (8.5' X 4.5') union jack my grandfather brought back from WW1, where this flag flew representing Canada at Passchendaele, the Somme and Vimy Ridge.

That is something very cool to have to pass on to future generations

JJ Irani · 13 April 2006, 04:13 AM

Good info, Adrian...thanks!

And, Padi, I like your flag!!

13 April 2006, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

And, Padi, I like your flag!!

That's because it's a stylized sheep with wings.

JJ Irani · 13 April 2006, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

That's because it's a stylized sheep with wings.

padi56 · 13 April 2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

That's because it's a stylized sheep with wings.

I Resemble that remark.

Y DDRAIG GOCH DDYRY CYCHWYN (roughly translated means the Red Dragon inspires action)The Celtic dragon also represents sovereignty, power or as in Pendragon, the Celtic word meaning warrior chief, the Red Dragon of Cadwallader is the true emblem Wales.And any association we Welsh have with sheep. Are wicked lies put about by the true aficionados,in the sheep world, the New Zealanders just ask JJ.

12 April 2006, 10:48 PM	#1
Uncle-AJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Real Name: Adrian Location: Bolton, UK. Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 6,844	Union Jack 400 years old today Here's a little known fact, it was 400 years ago today that James I decreed that the flag of Scotland and England (St Andrew's cross and St George's cross) be combined and flown on Naval vessels. It was not until 1801 that the flag of Ireland (St Patrick's cross) was added to make the Union Jack we know today. Most loyal Englishmen, Scotsmen, Irishmen and Welshmen most probably still prefer their individual flags, I know I do. __________________ A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.........Segal's Law Member #10 Last edited by Uncle-AJ; 13 April 2006 at 12:50 AM.. Reason: Cos I put the wrong date in................OK!!

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padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,064	Yes agree with you Adrian dont mind the Union Jack but prefer my own national flag. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

13 April 2006, 12:48 AM	#5
Uncle-AJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Real Name: Adrian Location: Bolton, UK. Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 6,844	oops just noticed my mistake with the second date. Good link Frans. __________________ A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.........Segal's Law Member #10

13 April 2006, 04:13 AM	#9
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Good info, Adrian...thanks! And, Padi, I like your flag!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

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12 April 2006, 10:56 PM	#2
Atomic Guest Posts: n/a	Congrats to the UK on this momentous birthday. We had 'Jack' in the corner of our national flag until the year I was born, 1965, when the current maple leaf flag was born. While I like the commonwealth connection, I'm happy we don't have the Jack on our national flag anymore. However, it is still in the corner of most Canadian provincial/territorial flags and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it's still on our Air Force and Navy ensigns. As a side note, I have the full size (8.5' X 4.5') union jack my grandfather brought back from WW1, where this flag flew representing Canada at Passchendaele, the Somme and Vimy Ridge.

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