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Old 27 November 2017, 02:10 PM   #1
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80s vs 90s vs 00s President

Hello all. My first post. Please be easy on me if this has already been hashed out.

I had a Date Just since about 2000 but recently lost it along with my house and 2 cars in the Santa Rosa CA fires last month. It was two tone with white face. Loved it. I am contemplating replacing with a brand new DJ version or.....

A pre-owned President Model. Can you give me the run downs of the differences, pros and cons of the 80s vs 90s vs 00 models of the President?

Thanks so much from a forum newbie.
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Old 28 November 2017, 12:36 AM   #2
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Sorry to learn of your loss.
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Old 28 November 2017, 12:39 AM   #3
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quick and dirty comparison:

80s will be single quickset (unless it's late 80s, like 87 I believe they started with the 3155 movement and went from the 18038(9) to the 18238(9)

90s was all 5 digit 18238(9) with double quickset movement

2000s they released the 6 digit model, 118238(9) which had a slightly different shaped case and I believe the bracelet went to solid links vs hollow

Bang for the buck, i'd say an 18238(9) - 8=yellow gold, 9=white gold, is your best bet
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Old 28 November 2017, 01:06 AM   #4
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I would want the double quickset movement for sure. Makes setting the watch much simpler and faster.
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Old 28 November 2017, 03:44 AM   #5
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As an owner of two Day-Dates, I’d say the quickset stuff only matters if you’re going to leave the watch dead for long periods of time, requiring a bunch of time, day, date setting every time you want to wear it. This is solved easily by wearing it frequently or buying a winder for $200 or so. A winder will be way cheaper than the cost to upgrade watch generations to single/double quickset.

The big reasons to buy the 6-digit models are: heavier solid link bracelet, better clasp, better end link design, and case update / polished lugs. Those differences make the 6 digit watch significantly different than even the late model 5 digit watches. It’s worth the price difference to me. If you don’t care about those things, buy the best looking 4 digit model you can find and spend a couple hundred extra on a winder.


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Old 28 November 2017, 07:31 AM   #6
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Having owned all, here's my two cents. Double vs Single quick set it of little matter to me since I wear or store with winder. Other than that BOTH are a great bang for the buck. BIG difference in the newer model MUCH heavier with the solid links!! Some other updates on the newer model are polished lugs vs machined, pollished end links on the bracelet and domed crystal. You will pay a good bit more for the newer model I'd say at least 30% more on the preowned market give or take. Biggest thing to watch out for ecspecially if you go for the older ones are aftermarket dials and bracelets. WATCH out for that. Hope this helps
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Old 28 November 2017, 07:33 AM   #7
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Almost forgot the clasp. To confuse you a little more. The clasp was upgraded in the newer model in the mid to late 2000s
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Old 28 November 2017, 07:40 AM   #8
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Price-wise from what I have seen lately from just very casual browsing is $8000 to $12K on the doubles and single and 13-20+ on the newer heavy ones. Dials and wear will usually make the difference on price.
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Old 28 November 2017, 07:58 AM   #9
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damn sry to hear for all of you losses man :(

I'd go and see what I could get, you never know.
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Old 28 November 2017, 10:59 AM   #10
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Thanks for everyone's comments and input.
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Old 28 November 2017, 12:29 PM   #11
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I own a mint 18238. This was the right balance for me, mint condition, sapphire crystal and double quick set. Buy the best condition model you can find, condition is the most important IMO. Good luck, they all look great! Pic of my 18238
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Old 29 November 2017, 09:21 AM   #12
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Nice one, Maiden.
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Old 29 November 2017, 10:20 AM   #13
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Thanks, good luck in your search. You are going to love it!
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Old 29 November 2017, 11:08 PM   #14
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Having had both a 90s and a 2000s I'm very happy with the 2000.
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Old 30 November 2017, 10:08 AM   #15
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To me, all three decades you mentioned, pale in comparison to the newer more solid pres bracelet of 2006 or later.. links are solid, not hollow, buckle is wider and sturdier for just a few k more .. 118238 is the way to go
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