Thoughts on trading my Submariner 114060 for Polar Explorer II 16570

[MHB]

I'm new to the forum, but have been lurking for a while. This place is a fantastic resource for all things Rolex/Tudor. Great community you have here. Now onto my predicament...

I purchased my first Rolex, a Sub 114060, back in August. The watch is really beautiful though IMHO it brings almost too much to the table in regards to bling factor for lack of a better term. It has gotten me more attention than I had thought it would. I would not be comfortable traveling to a lot of places with the Sub. I have also, strangely, not been able to get a totally comfortable fit on my 7" wrist after A LOT of trial and error. I feel like it wears a tad large as well. My dress is typically casual at work and at home.

I have been eyeing the 16570 Polar for a good while now and I'm thinking about making a trade. The Polar prices have been on the rise recently as well. I like the idea of making the polar my one daily watch with a date, I think it will be lighter and more comfortable, and I feel like I would be more comfortable wearing it for travel.

Should I do the trade? If so, should I wait until after Basel? If anyone has any advice or experience with making such a trade, I'm all ears. Thanks!

[CDNWatchNut]

I wouldn't give up a SubC for an ExpII based on having owned 2 over the years, both moved on. However, if you would like something lighter and smaller wearing than the SubC, its a great candidate. If you do it, and moreso in a private deal trade, you should be getting significant cash your way.

[HL65]

I wouldn’t but if you really want to go for it!

[Photovideopro]

I tried the polar on, it’s a cool watch. But I ended up with the 114060. Personally I wouldn’t buy the EXP II because it’s gaining steam. I think all the 5 digits are overpriced ATM. I’d buy it because you prefer the watch.

[MHB]

Originally Posted by CDNWatchNut

I wouldn't give up a SubC for an ExpII based on having owned 2 over the years, both moved on. However, if you would like something lighter and smaller wearing than the SubC, its a great candidate. If you do it, and moreso in a private deal trade, you should be getting significant cash your way.

Thanks for the replies. I’ve been following the classifieds and the 16570 is up to 5.5-6k+ for a late serial polar with box and papers in excellent condition. Used SubCs look to be going for 6.5 to 7k. So the Polar is creeping up there.

I am looking for something smaller and lighter. I am admittedly not 100% yet as to whether or not I want to move on from the sub though.

Do you think it matters if I wait until after Basel or not?

[JimSnyder]

In my mind, you already have the perfect watch I would be happy if that was the only watch for life

[Justindo]

If you want a versatile watch that wears a little smaller and won't draw attention, consider an Explorer I if you can live without a date.

[christopheran]

I’d trade for a pre-ceramic sub if you want less bling... I’ve owned the 40 and 42mm Explorer II. Neither of the E2s were as versatile as a sub imo.

[THC]

How in the world does a 114060 bring too much attention, and have too much bling, for any wearer? Baffled at this..

[Yobber76]

I'd keep the SubC.

[ragingcao]

Keep the Sub.

[henrylee]

I'd get a 5digit submariner date.

[zjd168]

I won't

[nikesupremedunk]

I also get tempted to flip my 114060 from time to time but in the end I"m glad I kept it.

[zaydans]

hell no. That's a trade down imho. If want a travel watch go buy a g shock or a seiko diver. That will get you zero attention. Trust me that's what I did!!

[warrior]

Exactly—unless the OP runs around a watch enthusiast crowd or a Rolex AD convention, I don’t see it. Normally,
The vast majority of people
Don’t notice watches, much less a black Sub. The Sub really isn’t a bling watch.

Originally Posted by THC

How in the world does a 114060 bring too much attention, and have too much bling, for any wearer? Baffled at this..

[Rashid.bk]

No question, keep the Sub.

[eshiku]

Originally Posted by MHB

Thanks for the replies. I’ve been following the classifieds and the 16570 is up to 5.5-6k+ for a late serial polar with box and papers in excellent condition. Used SubCs look to be going for 6.5 to 7k. So the Polar is creeping up there.

I am looking for something smaller and lighter. I am admittedly not 100% yet as to whether or not I want to move on from the sub though.

Do you think it matters if I wait until after Basel or not?

I have both the 114060 and 16570 polar and I feel the exact same way as you are toward the 114060, it is the most beautiful thing but very much a Rolex icon and for me it is blingy, while the 16570 is very understated and un-Rolex. For me the 114060 is much easier to get a good fit than the 16570, and overall the quality of 114060 feels much more "solid"

If I have to pick one out of the two, it will be the 114060. Below is a photo of both, it might make the decision making easier or it can be harder :)

https://ibb.co/i05tCn

[Cru Jones]

Oyster bracelet plus cyclops? You're still wearing a visible Rolex, if that is an issue. Maybe another brand is better for you? At any rate, on almost every level, the Sub is a better watch, but the heart wants what the heart wants....

[polaris72]

There are so many watch manufacturers that try to copy Sub design or produce its homage that I can not believe anyone notices it anymore. It might be all in your mind. Try to pay more attention around you, around your crowd, not just at your wrist, and you may find far more expensive watches. Wherever I move, I see mostly APs, PPs, and IWCs, AP being the must have here. I would not trade the Sub, put away some money, and get Explorer later, I love them too. In the meantime, Suunto Core Black for $180 on Amazon should work great.

[solesman]

Keep the Sub and save for the Explorer.

[Tombstone]

It only matters about how you feel what anyone else feels does not really matter as you are the one wearing the watch. Good luck.

[FTX I]

No Way

[dave023]

Keep the sub. How about a DJ in addition

[MHB]

Originally Posted by eshiku

I have both the 114060 and 16570 polar and I feel the exact same way as you are toward the 114060, it is the most beautiful thing but very much a Rolex icon and for me it is blingy, while the 16570 is very understated and un-Rolex. For me the 114060 is much easier to get a good fit than the 16570, and overall the quality of 114060 feels much more "solid"

If I have to pick one out of the two, it will be the 114060. Below is a photo of both, it might make the decision making easier or it can be harder :)

Really nice picture. I’m not sure how one could think the subc is understated or not at all blingy. The watch reflects light from every angle and draws attention. It’s not solid gold and not a datejust 41 with fluted bezel but it throws light everywhere - from the ceramic bezel to the wg gold indices.

The watch is gorgeous. Maybe the flashiness of the piece is all in my head though, but I really don’t think so. My relationship with the watch is complicated, though i’m not sure that’s a bad thing.

The sub is not subtle.

[NathansExplorer]

Originally Posted by THC

How in the world does a 114060 bring too much attention, and have too much bling, for any wearer? Baffled at this..

They're extremely shinny because of the ceramic bezel, gloss dial and lack of AR coating. Almost like an Xmas ornament.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Justindo

If you want a versatile watch that wears a little smaller and won't draw attention, consider an Explorer I if you can live without a date.

Explorer I gets my vote too.

[1st amg]

No way....you may have regreta one day

[Gerry62]

wrong choice, keep the Sub

[mailman]

I wouldn't but it's your choice.