The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Old 21 May 2018, 03:52 PM   #1
Marcus09
"TRF" Member
 
Marcus09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Real Name: Batman
Location: Gotham City
Posts: 1,184
AP vs. Daytona

Hello TRF. Am for a lookout for a watch. I made my mind for the ceramic Daytona white dial but still sometimes wonder about the AP. Yesterday, I saw the AP 37mm with blue dial and for the first time, it fits my wrist wonderfully since I got tiny wrists. Question is, why the $20,000 for that and at least $5000 less for the superb Daytona?
Need your opinions.
Cheers.



Sent from my iPhone X using Tapatalk
__________________
Marcus09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 03:53 PM   #2
You
"TRF" Member
 
You's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Beverly Hills, CA
Watch: Platinum Daytona
Posts: 785
Ap
You is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 03:57 PM   #3
tyler1980
"TRF" Member
 
tyler1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Houston
Posts: 17,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus09 View Post
Hello TRF. Am for a lookout for a watch. I made my mind for the ceramic Daytona white dial but still sometimes wonder about the AP. Yesterday, I saw the AP 37mm with blue dial and for the first time, it fits my wrist wonderfully since I got tiny wrists. Question is, why the $20,000 for that and at least $5000 less for the superb Daytona?
Need your opinions.
Cheers.
if you have to ask i would argue you dont "get it". You cant compare AP/PP/ALS or similar brands to Rolex. Its not the same thing. You need to decide what kind of watch you want first. They are not substitute watches. My gut tells me you are better off with the daytona. Its a great choice anyway.

While the 37mm AP looks very nice and if it fits you, that is good. However, its size/thickness ratio makes it one of the least elegant RO's so its not my favorite. 15202 is the choice for a smaller AP.
__________________
Instagram: tyler.watches
current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)
tyler1980 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 04:17 PM   #4
Ichiran
2024 Pledge Member
 
Ichiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Michael
Location: Near beach
Watch: PB1967
Posts: 8,165
To answer OP's question, the holy trinity manufacturers spend 50-60% of their total production time on finishing, most predominantly, hand-finishing. This adds to the cost of their watches.
Ichiran is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 04:21 PM   #5
glassdial
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: NY London
Posts: 186
The white Daytona is stunning and you will be saving yourself $5k.
glassdial is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 04:22 PM   #6
SearChart
TechXpert
 
SearChart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Earth
Posts: 23,639
I'd pick the AP, every time.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GB-man View Post
Rolex uses rare elves to polish the platinum. They have a union deal and make like $90 per hour and get time and half on weekends.
SearChart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 04:28 PM   #7
coxswain
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Chicago
Posts: 84
AP, definitely.

(But isn't 37mm a wee bit too small? I don't know about your wrist circumference; but, I'd choose 41mm or at least 39mm.)
coxswain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 04:29 PM   #8
tyler1980
"TRF" Member
 
tyler1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Houston
Posts: 17,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by coxswain View Post
AP, definitely.

(But isn't 37mm a wee bit too small? I don't know about your wrist circumference; but, I'd choose 41mm or at least 39mm.)
its fairly close to a daytona. AP's wear big.
__________________
Instagram: tyler.watches
current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)
tyler1980 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 04:44 PM   #9
Cru Jones
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Cru Jones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 35,301
Haute horlogerie vs. luxury watch. No wrong or right answer.
Cru Jones is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 05:17 PM   #10
TudorBeast
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: PNW USA
Watch: 114060
Posts: 516
Well there is only that price difference if you're comparing retail to retail...
TudorBeast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 05:39 PM   #11
SearChart
TechXpert
 
SearChart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Earth
Posts: 23,639
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyler1980 View Post
its fairly close to a daytona. AP's wear big.
Yup, their 41mm watches wear like 44mm.
Daytona for comparison.

On my 6.5" wrist...


__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GB-man View Post
Rolex uses rare elves to polish the platinum. They have a union deal and make like $90 per hour and get time and half on weekends.
SearChart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 06:00 PM   #12
Daycruiser
"TRF" Member
 
Daycruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Real Name: Ed
Location: Hong Kong
Watch: BLRO 5712
Posts: 787
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus09 View Post
Cheers.
To me it depends on many factors. First is this your only watch? If so I would get the Daytona, more versatile, more durable and less service cost. Thats purely for pragmatic reasons.

Now The AP Royal oak, gorgeous as it is, is a delicate piece. Easily scratched, and despite its water resistance, I would never wear it to the pool. It looks great under the cuff of a shirt and casual wear, but its a super bling watch, which may bring unwanted attention.

So if this is your second or third watch go with the AP, if this is your one and only, you can't beat the versatility of the Daytona. Not to mention if the price is right the Daytona keeps better value.
Daycruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 06:02 PM   #13
Daycruiser
"TRF" Member
 
Daycruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Real Name: Ed
Location: Hong Kong
Watch: BLRO 5712
Posts: 787
Quote:
Originally Posted by SearChart View Post
Yup, their 41mm watches wear like 44mm.
Daytona for comparison.

On my 6.5" wrist...
cdn.com/20180521/ccf562fdda2f212965e65072652b793f.jpg[/IMG]
Is that a 116509 fitted with a ceramic bezel?
Daycruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 06:11 PM   #14
wytrader
"TRF" Member
 
wytrader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: EU
Watch: SD
Posts: 583
Seem like pretty different choices for me. Similarity being both SS and hard to get via official routes. To then ask why there is a price differential seems odd.

Close your eyes and picture yourself in you most common habitat. Which watch are you wearing?
__________________
116520
116710LN, 116710BLNR
16600 V NIB, 116660, 116660, 116600, 126600, 126660, 126660, 126603
126610LV
wytrader is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 06:24 PM   #15
SearChart
TechXpert
 
SearChart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Earth
Posts: 23,639
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daycruiser View Post
Is that a 116509 fitted with a ceramic bezel?
Nope, platona with baguette index dial.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GB-man View Post
Rolex uses rare elves to polish the platinum. They have a union deal and make like $90 per hour and get time and half on weekends.
SearChart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 06:41 PM   #16
watchfan0529
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Geneva
Posts: 132
That 37mm is quite thick for its diameter imho..better to get the daytona - more scratch and shock resistant, waterproof, and you will have less troubles having it serviced than the AP 15450. I would however add a 15202 with that daytona ;)

Sent from my SM-A320FL using Tapatalk
watchfan0529 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 06:48 PM   #17
HL65
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
 
HL65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Real Name: Ken
Location: SW Florida
Watch: One on my wrist.
Posts: 64,008
Daytona
__________________

SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT
HL65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 06:48 PM   #18
coxswain
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Chicago
Posts: 84
Quote:
Originally Posted by SearChart View Post
Yup, their 41mm watches wear like 44mm.
Daytona for comparison.

On my 6.5" wrist...



I love that AP RO Openworked. It's one of my grail watches. I'll get one in SS.

I think Patek should counter AP with a Nautilus Openworked. Their current skeletonized watch is for the Calatrava line, which doesn't look good to me.
coxswain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 06:51 PM   #19
seadweller43
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: hong kong
Posts: 214
I really dont like the screws on the face of an AP. wonder why people would love it.
seadweller43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 06:53 PM   #20
Roger Lococco
"TRF" Member
 
Roger Lococco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Real Name: Roger Lococco
Location: Asia
Watch: 126719BLRO Pepsi
Posts: 2,980
Daytona


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
116500 Daytona White Dial
126710BLNR GMT II
126719BLRO Blue Dial Pepsi GMT II
Roger Lococco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 06:54 PM   #21
Rolexavidfan
"TRF" Member
 
Rolexavidfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: Har
Location: Tukwila, WA
Watch: Rolex
Posts: 1,571
I have both — Daytona and 15202. I wear the Daytona often. AP is reserved for some important occasions or if I want some attention. It is for me a statement watch.
__________________
Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex

Go for the timepiece you love. You will save more. ...
Rolexavidfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 07:03 PM   #22
Kigan
"TRF" Member
 
Kigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: EU
Watch: Blancpain AC01
Posts: 442
Reduce your current collection (GMTII-Day-ExpI-Sub) and buy AP 15450st & Daytona 116500.
Kigan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 07:04 PM   #23
Daycruiser
"TRF" Member
 
Daycruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Real Name: Ed
Location: Hong Kong
Watch: BLRO 5712
Posts: 787
Quote:
Originally Posted by SearChart View Post
Nope, platona with baguette index dial.
Thats right! The ice blue dial can seem white under some sunlight.
Daycruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 07:59 PM   #24
Marcus09
"TRF" Member
 
Marcus09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Real Name: Batman
Location: Gotham City
Posts: 1,184
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kigan View Post
Reduce your current collection (GMTII-Day-ExpI-Sub) and buy AP 15450st & Daytona 116500.

I'm a watch collector, I can't reduce my collection. I'll always add to it till the end of times. Well, my time to be exact.
Cheers.


Sent from my iPhone X using Tapatalk
__________________
Marcus09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 08:09 PM   #25
Kigan
"TRF" Member
 
Kigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: EU
Watch: Blancpain AC01
Posts: 442
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus09 View Post
I'm a watch collector, I can't reduce my collection.
In that case, Daytona.
Kigan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 08:35 PM   #26
Marcus09
"TRF" Member
 
Marcus09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Real Name: Batman
Location: Gotham City
Posts: 1,184
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cru Jones View Post
Haute horlogerie vs. luxury watch. No wrong or right answer.

Best answer so far.
Cheers.


Sent from my iPhone X using Tapatalk
__________________
Marcus09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 09:07 PM   #27
Toony
"TRF" Member
 
Toony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Real Name: Tony
Location: Gatchaman
Posts: 1,873
Between your 2 choices I’d go with the Daytona.
Toony is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 09:08 PM   #28
Chadridv
2024 Pledge Member
 
Chadridv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Real Name: Chadri
Location: LI, NY
Watch: 116610LV
Posts: 11,357
I prefer the Daytona, but the AP is awesome. You def have a well rounded enough rotation of watches to Justify the AP. If it were a one and only
I’d say for sure get the Daytona. But since you already have several other Rolex, the AP would fit in well.

It really depends on your personality and what you do with your watches.

For me, despite me having a decent sized, and versatile collection that’d be inviting to add that AP, I know it simply wouldn’t get wrist time, except for when I’m dressed up for special occcasions. That’s just my personality.
Chadridv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 09:08 PM   #29
JR16
2024 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 6,253
I would go Daytona over 15450- as others have mentioned, The proportions of the 15450 are just off IMO. Daytona will wear the same, size size and may even feel a bit smaller on the wrist


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
JR16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21 May 2018, 09:09 PM   #30
glamorama
"TRF" Member
 
glamorama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Dan
Location: Benelux
Posts: 1,920
AP rose gold is so beautiful with the grey/black dial.
glamorama is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Wrist Aficionado

My Watch LLC

WatchesOff5th

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

OCWatches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.