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Old 22 December 2008, 03:38 AM   #1
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Date Magnifier Under Water....

Interesting, but this morning I had a bowl of water in front of me and I just decided to drop my sub in. Don't know why. But when I looked down at it, the date window didn't magnify. I'm guessing it is b/c of the change from air to water that counter acts the magnification, but thought I would just pass it along.

In the water....


Out of the water....
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Old 22 December 2008, 03:46 AM   #2
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Dude! Ya need to stop now while you still have your sanity and we have ours.

You are going to produce mysteries that will keep this forum going in debate and conjecture for months to come if you don't stop now!
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Old 22 December 2008, 03:49 AM   #3
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Dude! Ya need to stop now while you still have your sanity and we have ours.

You are going to produce mysteries that will keep this forum going in debate and conjecture for months to come if you don't stop now!
I'm just waiting for someone to tell me I bought a fake. I mean c'mon. It is a non-maxi LV and now the date window is f'ed?????
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Old 22 December 2008, 03:59 AM   #4
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beatiful green 16610! we know you're legit Mik! that bezel insert loks awesome man, and I have noticed the date mag under water several times while swimming/surfing...just be sure not to do it while drinking...really gets your head spinning! hahaha. cheers!
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Old 22 December 2008, 04:00 AM   #5
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I personally think you bought fake water!!!! You are better than this Mik and you should be ashamed!
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Old 22 December 2008, 04:01 AM   #6
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in fact first time I noticed...I said "awwww sh**!" i must have lost my cyclops on the bottom when that wave owned me! hahaha
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Old 22 December 2008, 04:13 AM   #7
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I personally think you bought fake water!!!! You are better than this Mik and you should be ashamed!
Do you know how expensive that crap is!!!! It is more than gas!
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Old 22 December 2008, 04:26 AM   #8
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I personally think you bought fake water!!!! You are better than this Mik and you should be ashamed!
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Old 22 December 2008, 04:56 AM   #9
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For those who care......

A cyclops works by bending the path of the light passing through it.

The amount of bend caused by a particular material is called the "index of refraction".

The difference in the "index of refraction" at the point of contact between two materials dictates the amount the light is bent.


The index of refraction of water is greater than that of air, so the magnification properties of the cyclops are reduced....

BTW. I think the fake water answer was better!
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Old 22 December 2008, 05:04 AM   #10
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If you need to know the date underwater then you may have been underwater a tad too long.
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Old 22 December 2008, 05:21 AM   #11
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Cool find.
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Old 22 December 2008, 01:07 PM   #12
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A cyclops works by bending the path of the light passing through it.

The amount of bend caused by a particular material is called the "index of refraction".

Thanks for the explaination.

The difference in the "index of refraction" at the point of contact between two materials dictates the amount the light is bent.


The index of refraction of water is greater than that of air, so the magnification properties of the cyclops are reduced....

BTW. I think the fake water answer was better!
Thanks for the explanation.
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Old 22 December 2008, 01:11 PM   #13
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If you need to know the date underwater then you may have been underwater a tad too long.
now THAT was priceless. I haven't stopped laughing yet!
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Old 22 December 2008, 01:34 PM   #14
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A cyclops works by bending the path of the light passing through it.

The amount of bend caused by a particular material is called the "index of refraction".

The difference in the "index of refraction" at the point of contact between two materials dictates the amount the light is bent.


The index of refraction of water is greater than that of air, so the magnification properties of the cyclops are reduced....

BTW. I think the fake water answer was better!

Dave, interesting point....However light itself is not "bent" light can not be "bent" (well... only while it passes through a black hole, and that is just theoretical). The refractive index (otherwise known as the "index of refraction") of a medium is a measure for how much the speed of light (or other waves such as sound waves) is reduced inside a particular medium. Some scientists would argue that the light itself is not "bent", the light just changes its angle of entrance in that particular medium. It appears to be bent but in reality it has not truly bent.

With that said....
Bending Light
If you have ever half submerged a straight stick into water, you have probably noticed that the stick appears bent at the point it enters the water. This optical effect is due to refraction. As light passes from one transparent medium to another, it changes speed, and bends. How much this happens depends on the refractive index of the mediums and the angle between the light ray and the line perpendicular (normal) to the surface separating the two mediums (medium/medium interface). Each medium has a different refractive index. The angle between the light ray and the normal as it leaves a medium is called the angle of incidence. The angle between the light ray and the normal as it enters a medium is called the angle of refraction.

Snell's Law
In 1621, a Dutch physicist named Willebrord Snell (1591-1626), derived the relationship between the different angles of light as it passes from one transparent medium to another. When light passes from one transparent medium to another, it bends according to Snell's law which states:

Ni * Sin(Ai) = Nr * Sin(Ar),

where:
Ni is the refractive index of the medium the light is leaving,
Ai is the incident angle between the light ray and the normal to the meduim to medium interface,
Nr is the refractive index of the medium the light is entering,
Ar is the refractive angle between the light ray and the normal to the meduim to medium interface.

Wow, that's enough of that.....I knew physics would help me some day.....now back to reading about Gyn Surgery....
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Old 22 December 2008, 02:19 PM   #15
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Dave, interesting point....However light itself is not "bent" light can not be "bent" (well... only while it passes through a black hole, and that is just theoretical). The refractive index (otherwise known as the "index of refraction") of a medium is a measure for how much the speed of light (or other waves such as sound waves) is reduced inside a particular medium. Some scientists would argue that the light itself is not "bent", the light just changes its angle of entrance in that particular medium. It appears to be bent but in reality it has not truly bent.

With that said....
Bending Light
If you have ever half submerged a straight stick into water, you have probably noticed that the stick appears bent at the point it enters the water. This optical effect is due to refraction. As light passes from one transparent medium to another, it changes speed, and bends. How much this happens depends on the refractive index of the mediums and the angle between the light ray and the line perpendicular (normal) to the surface separating the two mediums (medium/medium interface). Each medium has a different refractive index. The angle between the light ray and the normal as it leaves a medium is called the angle of incidence. The angle between the light ray and the normal as it enters a medium is called the angle of refraction.

Snell's Law
In 1621, a Dutch physicist named Willebrord Snell (1591-1626), derived the relationship between the different angles of light as it passes from one transparent medium to another. When light passes from one transparent medium to another, it bends according to Snell's law which states:

Ni * Sin(Ai) = Nr * Sin(Ar),

where:
Ni is the refractive index of the medium the light is leaving,
Ai is the incident angle between the light ray and the normal to the meduim to medium interface,
Nr is the refractive index of the medium the light is entering,
Ar is the refractive angle between the light ray and the normal to the meduim to medium interface.

Wow, that's enough of that.....I knew physics would help me some day.....now back to reading about Gyn Surgery....
Wow.....

so doesn't my watch look nice....


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Dave, interesting point....However light itself is not "bent" light can not be "bent" (well... only while it passes through a black hole, and that is just theoretical). The refractive index (otherwise known as the "index of refraction") of a medium is a measure for how much the speed of light (or other waves such as sound waves) is reduced inside a particular medium. Some scientists would argue that the light itself is not "bent", the light just changes its angle of entrance in that particular medium. It appears to be bent but in reality it has not truly bent.

With that said....
Bending Light
If you have ever half submerged a straight stick into water, you have probably noticed that the stick appears bent at the point it enters the water. This optical effect is due to refraction. As light passes from one transparent medium to another, it changes speed, and bends. How much this happens depends on the refractive index of the mediums and the angle between the light ray and the line perpendicular (normal) to the surface separating the two mediums (medium/medium interface). Each medium has a different refractive index. The angle between the light ray and the normal as it leaves a medium is called the angle of incidence. The angle between the light ray and the normal as it enters a medium is called the angle of refraction.

Snell's Law
In 1621, a Dutch physicist named Willebrord Snell (1591-1626), derived the relationship between the different angles of light as it passes from one transparent medium to another. When light passes from one transparent medium to another, it bends according to Snell's law which states:

Ni * Sin(Ai) = Nr * Sin(Ar),

where:
Ni is the refractive index of the medium the light is leaving,
Ai is the incident angle between the light ray and the normal to the meduim to medium interface,
Nr is the refractive index of the medium the light is entering,
Ar is the refractive angle between the light ray and the normal to the meduim to medium interface.

Wow, that's enough of that.....I knew physics would help me some day.....now back to reading about Gyn Surgery....


yes, I vaguely remember that........ and I am a rad onc. I can't believe a gyn remembers that!
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beat me to it!!

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A cyclops works by bending the path of the light passing through it.

The amount of bend caused by a particular material is called the "index of refraction".

The difference in the "index of refraction" at the point of contact between two materials dictates the amount the light is bent.


The index of refraction of water is greater than that of air, so the magnification properties of the cyclops are reduced....

BTW. I think the fake water answer was better!
Damn... i wanted to be the smartie-pants!
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Old 22 December 2008, 10:22 PM   #18
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I agree with all you say.....

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Dave, interesting point....However light itself is not "bent" light can not be "bent" (well... only while it passes through a black hole, and that is just theoretical). The refractive index (otherwise known as the "index of refraction") of a medium is a measure for how much the speed of light (or other waves such as sound waves) is reduced inside a particular medium. Some scientists would argue that the light itself is not "bent", the light just changes its angle of entrance in that particular medium. It appears to be bent but in reality it has not truly bent.

With that said....
Bending Light
If you have ever half submerged a straight stick into water, you have probably noticed that the stick appears bent at the point it enters the water. This optical effect is due to refraction. As light passes from one transparent medium to another, it changes speed, and bends. How much this happens depends on the refractive index of the mediums and the angle between the light ray and the line perpendicular (normal) to the surface separating the two mediums (medium/medium interface). Each medium has a different refractive index. The angle between the light ray and the normal as it leaves a medium is called the angle of incidence. The angle between the light ray and the normal as it enters a medium is called the angle of refraction.

Snell's Law
In 1621, a Dutch physicist named Willebrord Snell (1591-1626), derived the relationship between the different angles of light as it passes from one transparent medium to another. When light passes from one transparent medium to another, it bends according to Snell's law which states:

Ni * Sin(Ai) = Nr * Sin(Ar),

where:
Ni is the refractive index of the medium the light is leaving,
Ai is the incident angle between the light ray and the normal to the meduim to medium interface,
Nr is the refractive index of the medium the light is entering,
Ar is the refractive angle between the light ray and the normal to the meduim to medium interface.

Wow, that's enough of that.....I knew physics would help me some day.....now back to reading about Gyn Surgery....


I was attempting to answer as simplistically as possible. Congrats on your nicely worded explination.
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Wow.....

so doesn't my watch look nice....


Yes!!! Very nice!
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