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Old 26 October 2018, 07:15 AM   #1
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Can I get help with this 16030

the watch in discussion here is supposedly a datejust reference 16030, of course the dial has been changed or its fake and the datewheel seems off to me, just wanting seek more expert opinion. Thank you before hand.


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Old 26 October 2018, 04:55 PM   #2
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Can I get help with this 16030

It is not fake, dial off a newer model, band could be fake



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Old 26 October 2018, 10:14 PM   #3
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thanks for the reply, look at the R though, it looks pretty off to me, very thick. I Dont know, I was going to purchase because he has it at a very good price but something tells me its wrong.
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Old 26 October 2018, 10:43 PM   #4
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I found the listing in ebay. It is described as a „16030 with 116200 hour marks and sunburst dial“. So definitely a franken watch if not worse. Are you the buyer?
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Old 26 October 2018, 10:49 PM   #5
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I found the listing in ebay. It is described as a „16030 with 116200 hour marks and sunburst dial“. So definitely a franken watch if not worse. Are you the buyer?
I did purchase it yesterday without paying attention to the small details because i do know the watch buyer's group and at the price ($2300) it was a very good deal with today's market, but as I looked closely at the watch after i made the purchase I immediately asked for the order to get cancelled, which the seller did and I got a full refund already, so no harm. But there is definitely something wrong with this watch. Thanks for the reply!
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Old 28 October 2018, 04:23 AM   #6
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Ill advised to buy something that is obviously whack and then start doing the due diligence!


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Old 28 October 2018, 04:28 AM   #7
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Im sorry i didnt understand what exactly your are trying to tell me, thanks for the reply!
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Old 29 October 2018, 03:25 AM   #8
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the watch head looks good, but does look like aftermarket steel bracelet. Prob not a fraken-watch the date disc does sit like that at times on the caliber 3035. Likely just a newer dial on older movement. have it inspected after purchase. you have 180 day dispute window if there are any issues.
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Old 29 October 2018, 03:44 AM   #9
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the watch head looks good, but does look like aftermarket steel bracelet. Prob not a fraken-watch the date disc does sit like that at times on the caliber 3035. Likely just a newer dial on older movement. have it inspected after purchase. you have 180 day dispute window if there are any issues.
Thanks for the reply! I actually got the order cancelled and got an immediate refund, the other thing that got me even more sceptical is that the seller had no reviews and after I cancelled the order he has not posted it again, so I keep thinking the watch was doubtful.
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Old 29 October 2018, 03:32 AM   #10
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Im sorry i didnt understand what exactly your are trying to tell me, thanks for the reply!
I think they are saying, research first, then buy........not the other way around.
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Old 29 October 2018, 03:52 AM   #11
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I think they are saying, research first, then buy........not the other way around.
Defenitely agree and it is usually how i proceed I usually buy my watches from John Batista who is very reputable seller down here in South Florida but usually only sell NIB or atleast newer models, ive been looking for an older datejust because i got one stolen from me a couple years ago but with the crazy prices we all know about it has not been possible. I usually never proceed to buy something like that. It was a mistake of my part clearly, thankfully i did get my money back immmediately.
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Old 20 December 2018, 08:48 PM   #12
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I have a 16030. The watch itself looks genuine to me (although my dial is different to the photo). The bracelet looks like an aftermarket bracelet though.
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