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Old 21 December 2018, 05:48 PM   #1
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Is it good practice to wind 15400 manually everyday?

1. As I dont sleep with watch and sometimes no wear even during day before, Is it good practice to wind watch manually every time?
2. Just to make sure I even know how to manually wind, I unscrew the crown until it pops out a bit and then just turn it to whatever direction? Is that considered manual winding? Would I feel when I reach the max? How?
3. When it mentiones 60 h power reserve does that actually mean 60 hours since it got off my hand? Because yesterday I realized my watch is 4 hours back when on my hand (didnt realize if it was totally stopped when I put it on, but I assume it was), it for sure was less than 60 hours since it was last on my hand (though not for long duration and without too much movement). Makes sense? Just checking...

Thanks guys! Im a worrried new owner :)
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Old 21 December 2018, 06:00 PM   #2
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No.

I would give the crown a few turns to start it up and wear it.

If it is running why bother winding it.

It is happy to wind itself up.
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Old 21 December 2018, 06:07 PM   #3
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No.

I would give the crown a few turns to start it up and wear it.

It is happy to wind itself up.
Sorry, didnt really understand... “no” what?
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Old 21 December 2018, 08:19 PM   #4
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1. As I dont sleep with watch and sometimes no wear even during day before, Is it good practice to wind watch manually every time?
2. Just to make sure I even know how to manually wind, I unscrew the crown until it pops out a bit and then just turn it to whatever direction? Is that considered manual winding? Would I feel when I reach the max? How?
3. When it mentiones 60 h power reserve does that actually mean 60 hours since it got off my hand? Because yesterday I realized my watch is 4 hours back when on my hand (didnt realize if it was totally stopped when I put it on, but I assume it was), it for sure was less than 60 hours since it was last on my hand (though not for long duration and without too much movement). Makes sense? Just checking...

Thanks guys! Im a worrried new owner :)


It means 60 hours from full power, not necessarily from off your hand as you really do not know where the reserve is at when you took it off. As long as you are wearing it every other day or so, no need to wind it. If you fully wind from stop as the instructions state, assume you are at full reserve at that point you throw it on. Your natural movements through the day should keep it there. When you take it off at night, you lost some but then get it back upon wearing it again through a day. You have a sort of clutch inside which prevents overwinding (you will hear some light clicking when you wind past full reserve) but no need to do that over and over.

Enjoy it and don't sweat it. Give it a few winds if you enjoy it and it makes you feel good but no real need to do so as long as you are wearing it somewhat regularly.


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Old 21 December 2018, 09:26 PM   #5
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Sorry, didnt really understand... “no” what?
My answer to your question.

Is it good practice to wind 15400 manually everyday.

No.
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Old 21 December 2018, 09:44 PM   #6
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My answer to your question.

Is it good practice to wind 15400 manually everyday.

No.
But then you say “I would give the crown a few turns...” so Im confused...
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Old 21 December 2018, 11:45 PM   #7
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Is it good practice to wind 15400 manually everyday?

If your watch has stopped then winding approx 40 times to get it full before wearing is a good move. Your arm movement then keeps it charged through the day.

Overnight it will use up power reserve but shouldn’t stop, so no need to re-wind again in the morning.

If I don’t wear mine on a Sunday for example, and have only had it on for a few hours on Saturday then I will wind when taking it off so I know Monday morning it will still have charge and be ready to go.

And yes to wind - unscrew, rotate crown clockwise about 30-40 times then re-screw in carefully.
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Old 25 December 2018, 08:04 PM   #8
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1. The automatic winding system of the movement in your RO (AP 3120) is extremely efficient. In my own experience, after you start the watch with the initial say 15 turns clockwise, after a typical day in the office, plus some walking, the mainspring should be wound to close to the full power reserve.
2. In order to diagnose the automatic winding, you may put your RO off your wrist after two days wearing, and observe after how many hours it stops. The nominal power reserve should be between 60 - 65 hours. If it is substantially less (< 50), you should bring it to a service center. It may be quite a banal problem (click spring, click lubrication, etc.).
3. If your RO stops on your wrist, it definitely signals a problem, not necessarily related to the automatic winding. If it happens again, I am afraid the service centre is the only reasonable advice. Cal. 3120 is a low friction construction movement, i.e. not exactly a very robust one.

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Old 26 December 2018, 11:50 PM   #9
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I’d say either, I wind mine every couple days of no use
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Old 27 December 2018, 11:37 AM   #10
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I don't manually wind my AP unless it is dead when I put it on my wrist.
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Old 3 January 2019, 06:27 AM   #11
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OK it happened to me again today! I definitely wore the watch less than 24 hours before it stopped. A bit concerning for a new watch purchased from official boutique less than a month ago. Which should work 60 hours!! Whats the best way to put this for a test?
Were not even talking about 48 hours this sas less than 24 hours for sure...
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Old 3 January 2019, 06:35 AM   #12
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Let me ask it differently, approximately how much time should a watch be on hand going from ~0 power to full? Maybe my issue is that I wear it for very short periods (a few hours a day) so it doesnt actually charge itself, and eventually dies during night time (less than 24 hours from last wear)... let me know if that makes sense..
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Old 3 January 2019, 06:39 AM   #13
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I would take it to a service center or AD for testing. It does not sound right,
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Old 4 January 2019, 01:38 AM   #14
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Is it good practice to wind 15400 manually everyday?

Wearing a completely unwound automatic watch only a few hours will definitely not fully wind it. No surprise it’s dead again in less than 24 hours—in fact it’s to be expected.
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