Everest interfering with Sub bezel...?

[JElvis]

Hi all - last night I placed a new Everest band on my SubC date. I noticed the bezel was about 50 percent more difficult to turn. Not hard, but definitely friction. Took the band off, put it back on, same issue. Annoyed me so much I put the metal bracelet back on. Anyone experience this? Could it put pressure on/damage my bezel? It looks damn good! I'm just concerned. Thanks.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by JElvis

Hi all - last night I placed a new Everest band on my SubC date. I noticed the bezel was about 50 percent more difficult to turn. Not hard, but definitely friction. Took the band off, put it back on, same issue. Annoyed me so much I put the metal bracelet back on. Anyone experience this? Could it put pressure on/damage my bezel? It looks damn good! I'm just concerned. Thanks.

Your watch is telling you to keep it on the original steel bracelet and not a bit of rubber.Remember the ceramic inserts float on 3 ball-bearings and a spring loaded click stop.

[ashokleyland]

Happened to me also, found out that the rolex OEM spring bar is more thicker thus causing the issue, it’s not compatible with Everest.. Use the spring bar that is included with the Everest..

[Carondelet]

Originally Posted by ashokleyland

Happened to me also, found out that the rolex OEM spring bar is more thicker thus causing the issue, it’s not compatible with Everest.. Use the spring bar that is included with the Everest..

OP: Any additional pressure on the bezel will increase the risk of the bezel popping off, so I think you did the right thing by going back to the OEM bracelet until you figure out what's wrong.

Based on ashokeyland's post - that sounds like it may be the culprit - if the Rolex OEM spring bars are thicker than the Everest spring bars, it would very likely expand the rubber and might be causing it to rub against the underside of the bezel. I'd definitely try ashokeyland's recommendation first. If this doesn't work, then I'd write to Everest and see if they'll send you a replacement. Best of luck, and throw some pictures up of that beautiful thing!

[SS Oyster]

Simple solution - leave your watch on bracelet as intended.


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[enjoythemusic]

Same thing here. Simply take Everest off watch, sandpaper down a bit off the very end top bit that touches the bezel. Problem solved :)

Come to think about it, after a week when first getting her new from AD (Mayors) don't think i ever used the stock bracelet ever since. Am using Rolex pins.

[Douglas9700]

Everest pins that came with the strap worked perfectly for me too - love the SubC on a rubber strap.

[Nucengineer]

Originally Posted by ashokleyland

happened to me also, found out that the rolex oem spring bar is more thicker thus causing the issue, it’s not compatible with everest.. Use the spring bar that is included with the everest..

x2!

[enjoythemusic]

Dunno guys, would rather a bit of sandpapering you'd never see and use beefier Rolex pins. Yet hey, that's me because i tend to truly daily beat my tool watches. Anyone ever do a durability test of the two different pins? Probably moot, yet maybe not if you're kiteboarding, etc.

[HogwldFLTR]

I've not noticed this with either my SD4K nor my Tudor BBN (when I had it). Fit was perfect. Do you by chance have the incorrect strap?

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Dunno guys, would rather a bit of sandpapering you'd never see and use beefier Rolex pins. Yet hey, that's me because i tend to truly daily beat my tool watches. Anyone ever do a durability test of the two different pins? Probably moot, yet maybe not if you're kiteboarding, etc.

I have tested a lot of pins aka spring bars. The ones Everest sells are not cheap ebay junk at all. I can tell you that for a fact because i have bought some and tested them.

The issue here is the op used the wrong ones. The Rolex spring bars have a thicker middle and are not made for this strap.

[bravetony]

I though that would happen on my SD43 but it fit perfectly with the rubber b. I used the original Rolex pins. The bezel moves just like having the oyster bracelet on.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by toxicavenger

The issue here is the op used the wrong ones. The Rolex spring bars have a thicker middle and are not made for this strap.

Ahh ok, cool 'n' thanks. Agree Everest pins are good.

Me? Would rather use the Rolex thicker ones and it took me all of 30 seconds to slightly sandpaper the bit just under the bezel to have her fit. So easy even a Caveman can do it

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Ahh ok, cool 'n' thanks. Agree Everest pins are good.

Me? Would rather use the Rolex thicker ones and it took me all of 30 seconds to slightly sandpaper the bit just under the bezel to have her fit. So easy even a Caveman can do it

[Cdn328is]

I actually just installed my Everest band on my 114060 as well and have noticed that there is indeed friction between the bezel and the top of the band when using the Rolex spring bars. I compared the Everest spring bars and the body diameter is the same (everest bars might actually be slightly bigger as they were harder to slide in and out of the band), but the ends that insert into the case are slightly smaller, which I'm not too fond of.

A big no-no in my opinion because a loose fitting spring bar end (compared to the lug holes) is what grinds down the spring bar holes in the case in an oval shape. I will take the band off tomorrow and sand it down a bit, I would rather use the Rolex bars since they are a more precise fit in the lug holes.

[Undefeatable]

Same experience when I had a SubC and Everest strap. I ended up just taking an exacto knife and sliced a thin layer off the top of the strap that was touching the bezel.

[Tools]

The Sub C springbars have a larger pivot than standard bars.

If you use other bars and you feel your strap doesn't rub just due to that, it is likely because the pivots are smaller and may damage the lug-holes because of the sloppy fit.

[ppalasthira]

Originally Posted by JElvis

Hi all - last night I placed a new Everest band on my SubC date. I noticed the bezel was about 50 percent more difficult to turn. Not hard, but definitely friction. Took the band off, put it back on, same issue. Annoyed me so much I put the metal bracelet back on. Anyone experience this? Could it put pressure on/damage my bezel? It looks damn good! I'm just concerned. Thanks.

I learn something new every time I come on here. Hope you get it solved soon.

[Cdn328is]

Originally Posted by Tools

The Sub C springbars have a larger pivot than standard bars.

If you use other bars and you feel your strap doesn't rub just due to that, it is likely because the pivots are smaller and may damage the lug-holes because of the sloppy fit.

I think you explained it better than I did lol

[pickettt]

What do you need to turn the bezel for? I just like to rib Sub guys.

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Ahh ok, cool 'n' thanks. Agree Everest pins are good.

Me? Would rather use the Rolex thicker ones and it took me all of 30 seconds to slightly sandpaper the bit just under the bezel to have her fit. So easy even a Caveman can do it

Can someone send pics of where they sandpapered the strap so it would fit with the Rolex pins?

[Seibei]

Originally Posted by pickettt

What do you need to turn the bezel for? I just like to rib Sub guys.

I use mine as an egg timer.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by JElvis

Hi all - last night I placed a new Everest band on my SubC date. I noticed the bezel was about 50 percent more difficult to turn. Not hard, but definitely friction. Took the band off, put it back on, same issue. Annoyed me so much I put the metal bracelet back on. Anyone experience this? Could it put pressure on/damage my bezel? It looks damn good! I'm just concerned. Thanks.

Simple answer your watch is telling you it don't like that rubber strap thing, and much prefers its original bracelet.

[Roddypeepa]

Best bracelet around possibly. I’d
Just keep it on the factory
Bracelet.


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[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Tools

The Sub C springbars have a larger pivot than standard bars.

If you use other bars and you feel your strap doesn't rub just due to that, it is likely because the pivots are smaller and may damage the lug-holes because of the sloppy fit.

This is why I'd always go Rubber B

[No SUBctitute]

After using the Rolex spring bars on my Everest EH-5 whilst attaching it to my SubC, the bezel was very difficult to turn. I spoke to Everest customer service and the lady indicated that they were aware this was a problem and that the solution was to use the Everest spring bars included with the strap. This is where it gets interesting.

Based on comments here, I informed the Everest rep that the Everest spring bars were smaller in diameter on the end, and they did not fit snugly into the case holes. I said that over time--since the spring bar was too small--the play could cause increased wear to the case hole as the spring bar moved around in the hole.

The Everest rep then told me that the Everest spring bars that came with the EH-5 are the same size as the SubC Rolex spring bars and that they would not cause any damage to the case holes. I said okay, we hung up, and I promptly went home to look at both spring bars. You can clearly see in the photograph that the Everest spring bar end is smaller than the Rolex spring bar end (as TRF said). Note: unlike some here have said, I don't see any difference in the diameter of the spring bars in the middle, so I'm not sure why the bezel won't turn when the Rolex spring bar is used in the strap.

I am a little bit surprised that Everest doesn't either: 1) make the strap so that the bezel functions correctly if using the Rolex spring bars, or 2) make the end of the Everest spring bars the proper larger size so there is no play when the spring bar sits in the hole, or 3) both.

Clearly, Everest knows this is a problem. I will follow up next week with Everest to see what Everest proposes as a solution. I should NOT have to: 1) use Everest spring bars that are the wrong size, or 2) shave down my brand new rubber strap so it works with the Rolex spring bars. [In the meantime, I'm using the strap with the Everest spring bars and I really like the look! I just would like a better solution. Maybe I'll end up shaving the strap end where it touches the case so I can use the Rolex spring bars.]

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by No SUBctitute

I am a little bit surprised that Everest doesn't either: 1) make the strap so that the bezel functions correctly if using the Rolex spring bars, or 2) make the end of the Everest spring bars the proper larger size so there is no play when the spring bar sits in the hole, or 3) both.]

The smaller tip of the spring bar gives it more room to float inside the lug hole.

Imo there are only two good solutions.
(1) Use your stock spring bars and drill out the middle of the rubber strap to be the same diameter as your stock spring bars (2.0mm).

(2) Get an aftermarket spring bar in the correct dimensions to fit the strap. Which I would assume would be 20mm x 1.8 (1.78)mm x 1.2mm tip.

In all honestly now that I think about it the strap has fixed ends. With that being said using the Everest bars might not hurt your lug holes. The reason why is the strap with the curved ends will not allow the spring bars to move up and down in the lugs. Does that make sense? If the strap did not have curved ends then yes it will have extra clearance between the strap and the case to move back and forth. Clear as mud?

[enjoythemusic]

Am simply informing you guys (again), about 20 seconds per strap at the very top-front where the bezel rubs with sandpaper. Install using Rolex thicker pins and you're fine. Can't even see where i used the sandpaper.



PS: We're not curing cancer, just a bit of mod so easy even a caveman can do it.