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Alc · 24 May 2019, 01:48 AM

Currently I have the blue Yacht and polar explorer II pictured below and looking at a none ceramic black sub. Pretty sure I like the no date for its cleaner appearance, I liked the engraving below the bezel in the new 07 08 model but the 4 line sure looks like a cluster or is it just me?

Look forward to hearing input from you guys.

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socalwatchcollector · 24 May 2019, 02:07 AM

Check out the Z serial with engraved rehaut. IMO one of the best they have made and I have collected subs for 20 years. Gold version on my wrist in profile photo but it does have date.

coaxial · 24 May 2019, 02:16 AM

I see you have posted a mix of dates vs no-dates; Traditionally if money is at all involved with your purchase in mind a no-date is usually the best bet/overall classic sub.

Imo, if you are going for an engraved rehault I would go for a modern ceramic for the better bracelet. Z & M serials are a good range if you must have those options listed for a 5 digit.

Alc · 24 May 2019, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by coaxial

I see you have posted a mix of dates vs no-dates; Traditionally if money is at all involved with your purchase in mind a no-date is usually the best bet/overall classic sub.

Imo, if you are going for an engraved rehault I would go for a modern ceramic for the better bracelet. Z & M serials are a good range if you must have those options listed for a 5 digit.

I had the SubC and got rid of it, didn’t fit my wrist properly and prefer the fit and classic look of the pre ceramic.

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Ksporty · 24 May 2019, 03:57 AM

You might also want to try on/check out the 16600 Sea-Dweller. Classic lines with a bit of extra heft, and a date window but not intrusive due no cyclops. I was looking at 5-digit Subs and the fit/look/history of the 16600 really grabbed me.

1665fan · 24 May 2019, 04:06 AM

1680

CPRWATCH · 24 May 2019, 04:07 AM

Best 5 digit black sub , don't forget to add the 16800 matte dial to the mix . Last of the matte dial subs, but still a serious daily wearer contender even today

Chester01 · 24 May 2019, 04:08 AM

For me a date is key, so the choice is clear. If you don’t need one, get the nodate. I am not if the thinking that the addition of the date changes the appearance of the watch appreciably so even if you would use the date sometimes, get the 16610.

socalwatchcollector · 24 May 2019, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CPRWATCH

Best 5 digit black sub , don't forget to add the 16800 matte dial to the mix . Last of the matte dial subs, but still a serious daily wearer contender even today

She's a beauty!

Dsmith1974 · 24 May 2019, 04:25 AM

Yep.

Two lines good. Four lines bad.

Go for the 14060M (two Line).

Dennisoul · 24 May 2019, 04:27 AM

There’s a big divide on 2 line and 4 line, there’s as many on here that prefer one to the other....totally a personal taste, both look good to me....the 2 line just shades it for me, simple clean....just set the time and go, no need to set the date if it’s stopped...just my view on it. I have the 14060M 2 line....although it has the 2 line dial, it has the certified movement of the 4 line certified dial.....best of both worlds!

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Wrist Watcher · 24 May 2019, 04:33 AM

I like the 14060 with tritium to give you the patina. If you need/want a date, I would look for a 16800 like the one above. Love that patina!

Alc · 24 May 2019, 10:10 PM

Is it the photo or is the crown guard bigger on one side vs the other?

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Originally Posted by Wrist Watcher

I like the 14060 with tritium to give you the patina. If you need/want a date, I would look for a 16800 like the one above. Love that patina!

Monte Cristo · 24 May 2019, 10:40 PM

For me the sub needs the cyclops as it gives it that distinctive look.
But each to there own.

Wrist Watcher · 24 May 2019, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alc

Is it the photo or is the crown guard bigger on one side vs the other?

Interesting. I have never noticed that, so I assume it's just the angle of the photo. Let me look later and get back to you.

SubMarine · 24 May 2019, 11:52 PM

Poor polishing job

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alc

Is it the photo or is the crown guard bigger on one side vs the other?

Oldfellow · 25 May 2019, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalwatchcollector

Check out the Z serial with engraved rehaut. IMO one of the best they have made and I have collected subs for 20 years. Gold version on my wrist in profile photo but it does have date.

I am currently looking at a Z Serial with engraved rehaut.
Very interested in your comment that this reference is one of
the best they have made.
I would be grateful if you could provide a little more information to help with my considerations.
Also have seen a Z series 2 liner, and wonder if you can help with an opinion on this version too.
Many thanks.

Alc · 1 June 2019, 06:37 AM

Just arrived V series I am very pleased

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Monte Cristo · 1 June 2019, 07:25 AM

Congrats look great

ccaballero · 1 June 2019, 07:26 AM

Get newest best condition 14060m you can get and enjoy.

mudd · 1 June 2019, 08:58 AM

Congrats! Looks great.

sensui · 1 June 2019, 09:13 AM

2 liner is the best IMO. So clean. But any 5 digit no date sub in great shape is a worthy adversary.

MagPI · 1 June 2019, 09:52 AM

The 16610 and the 16710 are still “the” Rolex watches to own in my book.

rusty427 · 1 June 2019, 10:06 AM

This is an excellent choice!

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Originally Posted by Alc

Just arrived V series I am very pleased

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Talbel · 1 June 2019, 10:18 AM

I personally like the two liner. I picked this 2007 Z serial a few months ago and love the clean look.

dba · 1 June 2019, 12:36 PM

Your other watches have date windows on them. I would miss the date window on any new watch. Just my two pennies.

Alc · 1 June 2019, 01:01 PM

Side by side I prefer the date

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24 May 2019, 01:48 AM	#1
Alc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 107	Best Black Sub to add to my collection? Currently I have the blue Yacht and polar explorer II pictured below and looking at a none ceramic black sub. Pretty sure I like the no date for its cleaner appearance, I liked the engraving below the bezel in the new 07 08 model but the 4 line sure looks like a cluster or is it just me? Look forward to hearing input from you guys. [ IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/c18be5905043ef7c697707c6765955ae.jpg[/IMG] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

24 May 2019, 04:07 AM	#7
CPRWATCH "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Paul Location: Chester UK Watch: Rolex GMT Master Posts: 4,600	Best 5 digit black sub , don't forget to add the 16800 matte dial to the mix . Last of the matte dial subs, but still a serious daily wearer contender even today Attached Images

24 May 2019, 04:27 AM	#11
Dennisoul "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Real Name: Andy Location: Scotland Watch: 16570 Polar Posts: 1,085	Best Black Sub to add to my collection? There’s a big divide on 2 line and 4 line, there’s as many on here that prefer one to the other....totally a personal taste, both look good to me....the 2 line just shades it for me, simple clean....just set the time and go, no need to set the date if it’s stopped...just my view on it. I have the 14060M 2 line....although it has the 2 line dial, it has the certified movement of the 4 line certified dial.....best of both worlds! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

24 May 2019, 04:33 AM	#12
Wrist Watcher 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 1,447	I like the 14060 with tritium to give you the patina. If you need/want a date, I would look for a 16800 like the one above. Love that patina! __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV (Hulk) Rolex GMT Master II 126710BLRO (Pepsi) Rolex Daytona 116500LN (White)

24 May 2019, 10:40 PM	#14
Monte Cristo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sydney Watch: ing you... Posts: 3,775	For me the sub needs the cyclops as it gives it that distinctive look. But each to there own. __________________ 'I am easily satisfied with the very best' - Winston Churchill

24 May 2019, 02:07 AM	#2
socalwatchcollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: John Location: newport beach Watch: Pateks Plural Posts: 1,620	Check out the Z serial with engraved rehaut. IMO one of the best they have made and I have collected subs for 20 years. Gold version on my wrist in profile photo but it does have date.

24 May 2019, 02:16 AM	#3
coaxial "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Naples, FL Watch: 5513, 116610LN Posts: 304	I see you have posted a mix of dates vs no-dates; Traditionally if money is at all involved with your purchase in mind a no-date is usually the best bet/overall classic sub. Imo, if you are going for an engraved rehault I would go for a modern ceramic for the better bracelet. Z & M serials are a good range if you must have those options listed for a 5 digit.

24 May 2019, 03:57 AM	#5
Ksporty "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: SC Posts: 266	You might also want to try on/check out the 16600 Sea-Dweller. Classic lines with a bit of extra heft, and a date window but not intrusive due no cyclops. I was looking at 5-digit Subs and the fit/look/history of the 16600 really grabbed me.

24 May 2019, 04:06 AM	#6
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	1680

24 May 2019, 04:08 AM	#8
Chester01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: East Coast Watch: 16610 Posts: 4,933	For me a date is key, so the choice is clear. If you don’t need one, get the nodate. I am not if the thinking that the addition of the date changes the appearance of the watch appreciably so even if you would use the date sometimes, get the 16610.

24 May 2019, 04:25 AM	#10
Dsmith1974 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Duncan Location: London Watch: DD 40 Posts: 2,263	Yep. Two lines good. Four lines bad. Go for the 14060M (two Line).

1 June 2019, 06:37 AM	#18
Alc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 107	Best Black Sub to add to my collection? Just arrived V series I am very pleased Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 June 2019, 07:25 AM	#19
Monte Cristo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sydney Watch: ing you... Posts: 3,775	Congrats look great __________________ 'I am easily satisfied with the very best' - Winston Churchill

1 June 2019, 07:26 AM	#20
ccaballero "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Florida Watch: None Posts: 646	Get newest best condition 14060m you can get and enjoy.

1 June 2019, 08:58 AM	#21
mudd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Texas Watch: 114060 Posts: 435	Congrats! Looks great.

1 June 2019, 09:13 AM	#22
sensui 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,443	2 liner is the best IMO. So clean. But any 5 digit no date sub in great shape is a worthy adversary.

1 June 2019, 09:52 AM	#23
MagPI "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: USA Posts: 208	The 16610 and the 16710 are still “the” Rolex watches to own in my book.

1 June 2019, 10:18 AM	#25
Talbel "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Tom Location: Arizona Posts: 401	I personally like the two liner. I picked this 2007 Z serial a few months ago and love the clean look. Attached Images

1 June 2019, 12:36 PM	#26
dba 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: David Location: Gardnerville, NV Watch: 16710 Posts: 2,706	Your other watches have date windows on them. I would miss the date window on any new watch. Just my two pennies. __________________ Current: 16710 Previous: 16760 Fat Lady, 16613 Bluesy, 16800, 14060, 16710 Pepsi, 216570 Polar, 116710LN, 16610, 216570 Polar (again), 16713, 216570 Polar (yet again), 16710 Black w/ Pepsi Insert Hope is not a strategy.

1 June 2019, 01:01 PM	#27
Alc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 107	Side by side I prefer the date Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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