New dial name...what a joke

[JParm]

"martian soil"...

Not going to call out the dealer, but that's what this is described as. Unbelievable.

[meyers]

I think I've seen them use that same description previously, or maybe it could've been the same watch

In fairness, I'm not sure what I would write next to "Dial" either

[CPRWATCH]

Originally Posted by meyers

I think I've seen them use that same description previously, or maybe it could've been the same watch

In fairness, I'm not sure what I would write next to "Dial" either

How about , Needs a new dial . Just about sums it up really , why can’t dealers or sellers just be a little more honest in their description of the watch instead of trying to big up the emperors new clothes .

[mattedialdoc]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

"martian soil"...



Not going to call out the dealer, but that's what this is described as. Unbelievable.

I have an alternate view:

When are we going to grow a pair and start calling these what they are: damaged...trashed...destroyed?

Our love for patina and the ultimate desire for the “tropical” has gotten out of hand. And until guys stop buying these POS it will continue. Stop the madness.


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[mattedialdoc]

Originally Posted by CPRWATCH

How about , Needs a new dial . Just about sums it up really , why can’t dealers or sellers just be a little more honest in their description of the watch instead of trying to big up the emperors new clothes .

+1000


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[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by meyers

I think I've seen them use that same description previously, or maybe it could've been the same watch

In fairness, I'm not sure what I would write next to "Dial" either

Deteriorated and damaged dial is the description that should be next to all of these named dials.

[1665fan]

That was the first watch on the moon.....not the speedy pro lol

[42itus]

It looks like mold.

I saw this one and thought it was kind of cool. Not cool enough to buy though.




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[ROlesorusLEX]

Saw that on their website this morning. Their prices for patina watches are crazy. However, I have to admit this does look really interesting. I wouldn't buy it, but I do kind of like it.

[meyers]

How about this: "Patinated"

The word patina comes from the Italian patina (shallow layer of deposit on a surface) derived from the Latin patĭna (pan, shallow dish). Figuratively, patina can refer to any fading, darkening or other signs of age, which are felt to be natural or unavoidable (or both).

The chemical process by which a patina forms or is deliberately induced is called patination, and a work of art coated by a patina is said to be patinated

"Martian soil" is a tad obnoxious, I think is what is being agreed on here. Description ought to be as objective as possible, without ascribing an opinion to it.

[Dan S]

I laughed when I saw it, and assumed they were having a bit of a joke.

[Kingface66]

This was discussed at length back in March when it appeared

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=665445

[TimeLord2]

Martian Soil = Exotic Dirt

[JParm]

Originally Posted by Kingface66

This was discussed at length back in March when it appeared

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=665445

Apologies, I hadn't seen that one. I'm usually on the regular forum, not here. Thanks for the info!

[Kingface66]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Apologies, I hadn't seen that one. I'm usually on the regular forum, not here. Thanks for the info!

No worries! I mean, the absurdity of it remains!

[sillo]

I think we're getting trolled at this point.

[Ssunnylee24]

sprinkle little bit of salt on my shit, it will look similar on macro.

[SunTzu]

Originally Posted by Ssunnylee24

sprinkle little bit of salt on my shit, it will look similar on macro.

As long as the obligatory peanut in every steamer doesn't make it on the dial.

[uncleluck]

I agree the names are silly and these type of dials should be worth less than nicely aged ones but...

It’s all a matter of opinion and I don’t mind the look of the dials posted above at all, I’d rather have a nice dial with just aged lume but if someone gave me that watch I sure as hell wouldn’t complain.

I just think it’s a tad disrespectful saying it’s trash as it might be what someone likes the look of or a watch that’s aged that way after decades in the family etc. Especially the one 42itus posted, that is pretty interesting if you ask me and I would rather have that dial than a mint gold hour marker dial with white lume. I only really like the matte dial subs with applied lume so it’s an improvement in my eyes to a mint applied marker dial.

[bigfatpauli]

Dealer 1: "Wow this dial is ruined. What do we do?"

Dealer 2: "Let marketing worry about that!"

Marketing: "Guys, I found a way to charge a 10% premium for that ruined dial. Meteorite? Try MARTIAN!!"

<all three high-five>

...

...

RSC: "Sir, the dial of your GMT has rusted to the movement. We can't service your watch."

[JParm]

Originally Posted by uncleluck

I agree the names are silly and these type of dials should be worth less than nicely aged ones but...

It’s all a matter of opinion and I don’t mind the look of the dials posted above at all, I’d rather have a nice dial with just aged lume but if someone gave me that watch I sure as hell wouldn’t complain.

I just think it’s a tad disrespectful saying it’s trash as it might be what someone likes the look of or a watch that’s aged that way after decades in the family etc. Especially the one 42itus posted, that is pretty interesting if you ask me and I would rather have that dial than a mint gold hour marker dial with white lume. I only really like the matte dial subs with applied lume so it’s an improvement in my eyes to a mint applied marker dial.

If I sold you a rusted up / water damaged car at a premium and called it something special, you wouldn't find that at least a bit worrisome??

It's one thing to sell the watch with these amazing names; it's something totally different when you mark it up and pass it off as a special piece because it eroded a certain way.

I guess in my eyes, I'd either 1.) put a disclaimer in there somewhere that this is a damaged dial or 2.) not put such a premium on it.

To each their own though...

[zapokee]

Originally Posted by Dan S

I laughed when I saw it, and assumed they were having a bit of a joke.

Clearly this. They're going meta on the trend for silly dial descriptions, although you do have to be in on the joke to get it.

[Verdi]

This is one of the dealers that I personally trust. They have honest and professional description of their watches.

The Mars bit is a bit of a shtick......I guess. It happens often with the so-called tropical dials. They got it wrong anyway, it looks more like Saturn soil to me! ��

[Alan111]

Originally Posted by bigfatpauli

Dealer 1: "Wow this dial is ruined. What do we do?"

Dealer 2: "Let marketing worry about that!"

Marketing: "Guys, I found a way to charge a 10% premium for that ruined dial. Meteorite? Try MARTIAN!!"

<all three high-five>

...

...

RSC: "Sir, the dial of your GMT has rusted to the movement. We can't service your watch."

Always pictured that this is how it went whenever someones brings in a patina'd watch for service.

[mobster600]

Literally garbage I’d say. Lol it needs to be re-done. That dealer is a tard

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by mattedialdoc

I have an alternate view:

When are we going to grow a pair and start calling these what they are: damaged...trashed...destroyed?

Our love for patina and the ultimate desire for the “tropical” has gotten out of hand. And until guys stop buying these POS it will continue. Stop the madness.


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It’s so true. Tropic dial can now range from kind of a light cool brown color to a thrashed dial that is clearly ruined. I think this one is rather interesting but i can’t see paying for it.


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[1675-David]

So a dealer can't have a bit of fun?? The last time this watch was discussed it was pretty obvious that the dealer in question (and we all know who he is) was having a tongue in cheek moment...
The watch remains unsold and I'm guessing it will remain so, until enough threads are started by indignant forum members. All this complaining about the absurdity of calling a damaged dial for something so disingenuous as a "Martial Soil Dial" means that the watch in it's own right could attain a cult status in the vintage world and thus become more attractive.... 14 750 USD might in hindsight look like a bargain.

OP are you sure your not working undercover for our friend in San Francisco?

[JParm]

Originally Posted by 1675-David

So a dealer can't have a bit of fun?? The last time this watch was discussed it was pretty obvious that the dealer in question (and we all know who he is) was having a tongue in cheek moment...
The watch remains unsold and I'm guessing it will remain so, until enough threads are started by indignant forum members. All this complaining about the absurdity of calling a damaged dial for something so disingenuous as a "Martial Soil Dial" means that the watch in it's own right could attain a cult status in the vintage world and thus become more attractive.... 14 750 USD might in hindsight look like a bargain.

OP are you sure your not working undercover for our friend in San Francisco?

That's a pretty far-fetched thought

[exador]

Originally Posted by 1675-David

So a dealer can't have a bit of fun?? The last time this watch was discussed it was pretty obvious that the dealer in question (and we all know who he is) was having a tongue in cheek moment...14 750 USD might in hindsight look like a bargain.

I'm eternally curious to know how the conversation went with the original owner of the watch...

"Sorry that dial is toast. We'll have to replace it before we can sell it. It's half the value of the watch gone. We'll offer you $5,000 to take it off your hands"