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Old 1 October 2019, 05:47 AM   #1
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odd oiling in video

I just saw a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYJ9KkFK9wE&t=1229s of a service of a GMT Master where the tech oiled - very little - the teeth of the inner wheel of the reversing wheel assembly. Is that recommended?
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Old 1 October 2019, 05:51 AM   #2
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Don’t have time to watch the video but that is not SOP. Oiling those teeth is not needed; they are shaped to have almost no friction unless they are locked.

However, when you oil them, you actually increase the drag and reduce the efficiency of the ad autowinding mechanism.


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Old 1 October 2019, 04:18 PM   #3
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Yeah I wouldn't lubricate those...
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Old 1 October 2019, 07:43 PM   #4
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Unless I missed it on the video (please correct me if I have), the watchmaker oils the pivot and not the teeth (20min 31sec into the video). That is the correct procedure.
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Unless I missed it on the video (please correct me if I have), the watchmaker oils the pivot and not the teeth (20min 31sec into the video). That is the correct procedure.
He oils the teeth of the inner wheel before assembling the reverser.
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Yeah I wouldn't lubricate those...
I’m gonna go with whatever Bas says
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He oils the teeth of the inner wheel before assembling the reverser.
Yes he does...missed that the first three times I watched.

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Yes he does...missed that the first three times I watched.



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I skipped through the video and missed it at first as well.
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Old 2 October 2019, 01:32 AM   #9
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What do you think of assembling the autowind on the movement as in the video. I had never thought of that and I have had a real PITA time assembling them. It is not what Rolex calls for but it looks a good technique.
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In the absence of the correct assembly holder for the automatic module, assembling on to the movement is not the worst idea, but it is definitely a compromise.
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Old 2 October 2019, 02:20 AM   #11
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Why a compromise? I don't see what can be wrong.
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Old 2 October 2019, 04:34 AM   #12
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You would either be lubricating the lower side pivots or jewels before you assemble the module, or you need to remove the assembled module from the movement and lubricate them then.

Oiling a pivot or jewel before you insert one in to the other is (at least in my view) a compromise because you run the risk of the oil moving from the required location when you assemble the two parts together. Sometimes it’s the only way to do something in which case it is an unavoidable compromise - such as with the drive wheel which connects the automatic module and ratchet wheel.
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I understand your reasoning. Thanks for clarifying.
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Old 2 October 2019, 04:50 AM   #14
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In the absence of the correct assembly holder for the automatic module, assembling on to the movement is not the worst idea, but it is definitely a compromise.
The holder makes it so much easier for lazy people like me

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Old 3 October 2019, 08:38 AM   #16
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That's a lovely thing. Wish I had one.
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