3235 vs 3135

[steeevvvooo]

Interesting read on the newer movent as well as pros and cons of both.

https://quillandpad.com/2019/11/19/w...ich-is-better/

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[Seibei]

Thanks for confirming my opinions. The extra power reserve is of new use to me so I will take the older movement all day, every day.

"But where does it stand next to its big brother? Is he faster, stronger, more intelligent, and better looking? Well, he is better looking. I would even say he’s faster, but when it comes to strength and intelligence the 3135 takes it every time."

[schoolboy]

Interesting, I didn’t know there were so many differences, I thought the main difference was the power reserve

I’m happy to have the 3135 then :)

Or to have learned a bit more about it too

Thanks for sharing

[BlueNote]

I read that article earlier today. What got my attention was this:

“... to keep size down the barrel wall thickness has been decreased by half so as not to make the movement excessively large...”
Which as a result “means that changing the mainspring is no longer an option. There is no safe way to remove and reinstall the mainspring without damaging the barrel.”

Progress at a price.

[bruinmd]

great read..........looks like I may not be swapping out my hulk for the updated 3235 when it finally comes out after all.

[sillo]

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=709564

[efthi]

Some great information in there, thank you


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[No SUBctitute]

Agreed. The increase power reserve not worth it. I'll keep my 3135. Although, this won't keep me from buying a DJ41.

Originally Posted by Seibei

Thanks for confirming my opinions. The extra power reserve is of new use to me so I will take the older movement all day, every day.

"But where does it stand next to its big brother? Is he faster, stronger, more intelligent, and better looking? Well, he is better looking. I would even say he’s faster, but when it comes to strength and intelligence the 3135 takes it every time."

[ndrs63]

With the 32xx movement you are at the mercy of Rolex. All you can do is hope they don’t discontinue the custom barrels and the ball bearing rotors. In other words, there is no guarantee your grandkids can continue using your Rolex.


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[steeevvvooo]

Originally Posted by sillo38

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=709564

Thanks. I didn't see the other thread

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[jimcameron]

Sales gimmick.

[Bladeshot]

I’ll take 3135, thank you. Tremendous legacy. Also has parts availability and, therefore, not quite as subject to Rolex. I do have RSC work on things, but it’s nice to be able to do some aspects, ourselves.

[gunhose]

i agree sales gimmick

[Oxfordian]

Ah, progress, the replacement of something much loved with something that is new, unproven and at this stage not loved.

No doubt in 1988 when the 3135 was launched there was an outcry, why is Rolex launching this new movement, what's wrong with the old one, I'm not buying any watch with that new movement, I bet the internet forums were full of negative comments.

Well of course there were no forums, there was no outcry, Rolex just got on with producing its watches with the new movement, now those first watches with the 3135 are sought after and highly prized collectors pieces.

If we didn't change and innovate then we wouldn't have ceramic or 904L steel, silicon, liquid metal or other innovations, even the mighty 3135 has changed, if you looked at an original movement and compared it to modern variant there would be differences, improvements and refinements made as the years passed and new technology arrived.

The 3235 is a progression, it isn't something that was cobbled together on a Friday afternoon in the Rolex factory by a couple of Rolex elves high on spring water after a lunchtime drinking session, but something that will have been designed and tested for a year or three before being launched on the public.

Yes Rolex will find some flaws in the years to come, these will be examined and solutions implemented just as they were in the 3135, the difference being that the internet was in it's infancy during the first few years of production of the 3135 so any issues were addressed between the AD and the customer not on a public forum whereas any issues found on the 3235 are going to be plastered across forums all around the world with the usual click-bait headline grabbing titles.

However, the reality will be that the vast majority of watches will tick away quite merrily, working away without issue, keeping their owners contented and happy.

[brandrea]

It would be interesting to hear from some of our RSC and watchmaker members.

IMO, Rolex know what they’re doing and the 3235 is a solid, well built movement, serviceable movement.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Oxfordian

Ah, progress, the replacement of something much loved with something that is new, unproven and at this stage not loved.

No doubt in 1988 when the 3135 was launched there was an outcry, why is Rolex launching this new movement, what's wrong with the old one, I'm not buying any watch with that new movement, I bet the internet forums were full of negative comments.

Well of course there were no forums, there was no outcry, Rolex just got on with producing its watches with the new movement, now those first watches with the 3135 are sought after and highly prized collectors pieces.

If we didn't change and innovate then we wouldn't have ceramic or 904L steel, silicon, liquid metal or other innovations, even the mighty 3135 has changed, if you looked at an original movement and compared it to modern variant there would be differences, improvements and refinements made as the years passed and new technology arrived.

The 3235 is a progression, it isn't something that was cobbled together on a Friday afternoon in the Rolex factory by a couple of Rolex elves high on spring water after a lunchtime drinking session, but something that will have been designed and tested for a year or three before being launched on the public.

Yes Rolex will find some flaws in the years to come, these will be examined and solutions implemented just as they were in the 3135, the difference being that the internet was in it's infancy during the first few years of production of the 3135 so any issues were addressed between the AD and the customer not on a public forum whereas any issues found on the 3235 are going to be plastered across forums all around the world with the usual click-bait headline grabbing titles.

However, the reality will be that the vast majority of watches will tick away quite merrily, working away without issue, keeping their owners contented and happy.

Well said.

I am happy to have a roller bearing rotor and all of the other advances at the expense of having to swap out the barrel and mainspring rather than just the mainspring.

And come on people. Concerns that Rolex won't be a round longer than you will be should spare parts be required?

A grip needs to be robustly had

[OneOwner]

I was holding out for the 3235 in a new submariner. But not any longer. My philosophy is buy quality and keep it forever. Not interested in being at the mercy of Rolex parts supply and ending up with an expensive paper weight to give my kids.

[OneOwner]

I've been holding out for the 3235 in a new Submariner model. Not anymore. My Philosophy is buy it once and keep it forever. Not interested in being at the mercy of Rolex parts and ending up with an expensive paperweight to pass on to my kids.

[gxd905]

I am the proud new owner of DJ41 (just arrived last week from my AD) and wearing it everyday. I also am the proud owner of an inherited vintage 1955 OP model 6284 SS with O bracelet. Fairly simple watch that my father acquired while serving in Korea. He had it reworked years ago with an engine turn 18k bezel and crown so now it's two tone. Long story short, I was told last week by Rolex they could restore the watch in Geneva to all original parts, this after 65 years of service! I will most likely keep it the way my father had it reworked back in 1997. Point is, I'm not too worried about my 3235 movement needing replaced and/or serviced for my grandkids in 50 years. Don't sweat the small stuff.