Please HELP checking my new Rolex Submariner

[mechta]

Hey guys,

I just found this forum today and joined.
I've recently got a used submariner 116610LN around my location,
dealer was 100% confident about the authenticity of the watch
but as you know, there are even more replica ones than genuine out there and wanted to get help from you guys checking this and to make sure if there's no problem with mine.
Would you guys please be able to take a sharp look and check ?

Both serial #s on guarantee card and engraving match,
Country code : 888 (looks like Hong Kong)
1st invoice date : Apr. 2013

Thanks!!!

[GLADIATOR]

No red flags to me.
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[tigey]

Its real but the clasp is fake

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by tigey

Its real but the clasp is fake

I'm not convinced the rest of the watch is genuine. Should have the case back removed to see movement, IMO

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

I'm not convinced the rest of the watch is genuine. Should have the case back removed to see movement, IMO

I think externally ok
But not against this too

[Onikage]

I can't elaborate further on what has been said. I'm not 100% confident. Let's say that.

[Bigblu10]

OP please post pics of the warranty card. You may cover up part of the serial #

[ThatExplorer]

There’s a few things I don’t like about it but who knows.


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[Gary Anderson]

No good.

[antrolexsub]

There’s nothing wrong with it.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by antrolexsub

There’s nothing wrong with it.

Agreed

[Gary Anderson]

Could be a genuine case and bracelet with a fake movement. I'm not commenting.

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by Gary Anderson

Could be a genuine case and bracelet with a fake movement. I'm not commenting.

But you did..

[snyde]

Does the crystal have the crown laser etching ?



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[antrolexsub]

Originally Posted by snyde

Does the crystal have the crown laser etching ?



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Means nothing. Some fake laser etchings are done better than the genuine ones.

[derekhayden]

I am no expert but there is no way I would buy the most replicated watch without getting it looked at before hand.

As others have said there are a few things even in my eyes that would have thrown up some flags. Far as the crown laser etching, this has been replicated for many years and is no indication of 100% genuine.

[Gary Anderson]

I'd need to give the watch a feel to make a decision.

[bondtoys]

I don’t like this watch at all!

I don‘t want to imagine, what abuse the watch went thru (if genuine) to get the ceramic inlay damaged like it is!

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

I don’t like this watch at all!

I don‘t want to imagine, what abuse the watch went thru (if genuine) to get the ceramic inlay damaged like it is!

What damage to inlay. Looks perfect to me.
Those marks are finger marks.
No scratches or dropout

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

What damage to inlay. Looks perfect to me.
Those marks are finger marks.
No scratches or dropout

There appears to be a deep scratch on the ceramic at the 54 mark. Could be a hair, however.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

There appears to be a deep scratch on the ceramic at the 54 mark. Could be a hair, however.

Yes, it could be - but ceramic numbers are perfect, the fakes tend to have dropout and not the "3D" effect.
Not sure if 'black' ceramic would scratch to 'white'?

any one seen a scratched black ceramic bezel?

see here - seems to scratch to black!
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=542185
Thanks

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Yes, it could be - but ceramic numbers are perfect, the fakes tend to have dropout and not the "3D" effect.
Not sure if 'black' ceramic would scratch to 'white'?

any one seen a scratched black ceramic bezel?

see here - seems to scratch to black!
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=542185
Thanks

If it is a scratch, it could be the lighting making it look white. I agree with you, the bezel looks good as far as it being real.

[Bigblu10]

The scroll printing on that clasp blade looks sub-par at best.

[bondtoys]

I see deep damages between 5 minutes and 15.
I don’t think that these are fingerprints

[Brew]

Why do folks guess? OP asked for help, not beliefs and guesses.

Crowd sourcing authenticity seems like a poor way to make this determination.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by Brew

Why do folks guess? OP asked for help, not beliefs and guesses.

Crowd sourcing authenticity seems like a poor way to make this determination.

Let's put things into perspective. OP buys perhaps the most faked Rolex in the world. Spends several thousands of $$ Then comes here for authentication?
Would you do the same? I sure as hell wouldn't. I asked him for images of the warranty card. We will see if he comes back or is just trolling for a fake watch.

[NitroRacer]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Let's put things into perspective. OP buys perhaps the most faked Rolex in the world. Spends several thousands of $$ Then comes here for authentication?
Would you do the same? I sure as hell wouldn't. I asked him for images of the warranty card. We will see if he comes back or is just trolling for a fake watch.

Looks like he came back.

[crowncollection]

Looks ok from here


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[PRSWILL]

One post... Ghost. If OP were concerned, he's be back by now- it's an $ 8,000 + watch.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by PRSWILL

so here's the tell OP, you said "first invoice 2013"- maybe i'm not understanding- but this isn't a 2013 watch from what I can see- i'd put it at 2016+.

I always love these threads where the OP has posted 1 time about an $ 8,000+ watch and disappears - if I were seriously concerned about this, I'd be responding by now- all leads to probable fake - who knows...

The first character in the rehaut serial is a "G". Looks like 7 characters there, so if the watch is indeed genuine it would be a 2010 watch. And I emphasize the word "IF".