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DavidLondon · 25 April 2020, 03:59 AM

Hi all, new to posting on the forum but have been reading posts for a long time. Looking for help please. I am looking at this sub. I know the bracelet is service but welcome thoughts on the Insert (could be service) and dial (believe totally original). Also if you think something is not originally very keen to understand how you know as I try to increase my understanding.

Any thoughts welcome and stay safe everyone.

Styles Bitchley · 25 April 2020, 04:22 AM

As mentioned, thin font service insert. In one image the lower crown guard looks to be polished down to a toothpick. Maybe it’s just the angle of the photo?

Styles Bitchley · 25 April 2020, 04:27 AM

What are the first three digits of the serial number?

DavidLondon · 25 April 2020, 06:53 AM

Serial number starts 229

SailingLife · 25 April 2020, 09:46 AM

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Serial number starts 229

That would date it to 1969-1970 do you have any pics of the engravings?

swaini3 · 25 April 2020, 07:39 PM

David,
After you get your comments here from the experienced ones, I suggest you take the watch to an experienced vintage watchmaker to check the movement for authenticity and movement condition. You never know nowadays. London has some good watchmakers Im sure. Maybe you should discuss this with the seller too to have piece of mind and a clean honest transaction.
A picture of the movement posted here is also a good idea. If your watchmaker is honest and suggests a service, pls do it. You will get piece of mind for the next 5-10 yrs.
All the best.

DavidLondon · 26 April 2020, 02:19 AM

Thanks for the advice I will certainly do that. For a 1969 model would you expect to see a Mk2 (long 5) or Mk3 Insert, it seems like it could be either?

BrazenC5 · 26 April 2020, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidLondon

Thanks for the advice I will certainly do that. For a 1969 model would you expect to see a Mk2 (long 5) or Mk3 Insert, it seems like it could be either?

Mk3 insert

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swaini3 · 26 April 2020, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidLondon

Thanks for the advice I will certainly do that. For a 1969 model would you expect to see a Mk2 (long 5) or Mk3 Insert, it seems like it could be either?

long 5

DavidLondon · 27 April 2020, 12:30 AM

Two different answers, guess that means there is no concrete answer to the question. Adding a few more photos as asked for. To me the dial and hands all look in very good condition.

Styles Bitchley · 27 April 2020, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidLondon

Two different answers, guess that means there is no concrete answer to the question. Adding a few more photos as asked for. To me the dial and hands all look in very good condition.

It looks lovely to me. But I’m admittedly not great at spotting problematic dials!

scooba · 27 April 2020, 03:31 AM

How much are they asking ?

DavidLondon · 27 April 2020, 03:56 AM

Just waiting back on price, comes with double punched papers so am expecting low 40k USD, will see.

scooba · 27 April 2020, 05:02 AM

That sounds correct ! .

I have a very similar Red Sub slightly earlier and was offered 40k for it around 18 months ago .

charlitos · 27 April 2020, 05:11 AM

Rolex doesn't throw anything away. i have seen mk1 2 and 3 in this examples

scooba · 27 April 2020, 05:20 AM

Hi David are you aware off DRSD.COM .?

Mine is very very similar to yours with double punched papers . Fat font insert with correct 9315 bracelet original box and original sales receipt . I paid $22500 or £13,860. For mine in the Autumn of 2014

May I ask who is selling it ?

scooba · 27 April 2020, 03:27 PM

This is my example

http://sheartime.com/products/1969-r...ner-ref-1680-2

25 April 2020, 03:59 AM	#1
DavidLondon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: London Posts: 10	New Member - Rolex 1680 Red Help Hi all, new to posting on the forum but have been reading posts for a long time. Looking for help please. I am looking at this sub. I know the bracelet is service but welcome thoughts on the Insert (could be service) and dial (believe totally original). Also if you think something is not originally very keen to understand how you know as I try to increase my understanding. Any thoughts welcome and stay safe everyone. Attached Images

27 April 2020, 12:30 AM	#10
DavidLondon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: London Posts: 10	Two different answers, guess that means there is no concrete answer to the question. Adding a few more photos as asked for. To me the dial and hands all look in very good condition. Attached Images

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25 April 2020, 04:22 AM	#2
Styles Bitchley "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Canada Watch: 1680 Posts: 1,398	As mentioned, thin font service insert. In one image the lower crown guard looks to be polished down to a toothpick. Maybe it’s just the angle of the photo?

25 April 2020, 04:27 AM	#3
Styles Bitchley "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Canada Watch: 1680 Posts: 1,398	What are the first three digits of the serial number?

25 April 2020, 06:53 AM	#4
DavidLondon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: London Posts: 10	Serial number starts 229

25 April 2020, 07:39 PM	#6
swaini3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Mo Location: Dubai Watch: 1675 GMT, DRSD Posts: 1,459	David, After you get your comments here from the experienced ones, I suggest you take the watch to an experienced vintage watchmaker to check the movement for authenticity and movement condition. You never know nowadays. London has some good watchmakers Im sure. Maybe you should discuss this with the seller too to have piece of mind and a clean honest transaction. A picture of the movement posted here is also a good idea. If your watchmaker is honest and suggests a service, pls do it. You will get piece of mind for the next 5-10 yrs. All the best.

26 April 2020, 02:19 AM	#7
DavidLondon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: London Posts: 10	Thanks for the advice I will certainly do that. For a 1969 model would you expect to see a Mk2 (long 5) or Mk3 Insert, it seems like it could be either?

27 April 2020, 03:31 AM	#12
scooba 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Europe Watch: Anything Posts: 2,586	How much are they asking ?

27 April 2020, 03:56 AM	#13
DavidLondon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: London Posts: 10	Just waiting back on price, comes with double punched papers so am expecting low 40k USD, will see.

27 April 2020, 05:02 AM	#14
scooba 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Europe Watch: Anything Posts: 2,586	That sounds correct ! . I have a very similar Red Sub slightly earlier and was offered 40k for it around 18 months ago .

27 April 2020, 05:11 AM	#15
charlitos "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: España Posts: 179	Rolex doesn't throw anything away. i have seen mk1 2 and 3 in this examples

27 April 2020, 05:20 AM	#16
scooba 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Europe Watch: Anything Posts: 2,586	Hi David are you aware off DRSD.COM .? Mine is very very similar to yours with double punched papers . Fat font insert with correct 9315 bracelet original box and original sales receipt . I paid $22500 or £13,860. For mine in the Autumn of 2014 May I ask who is selling it ?

27 April 2020, 03:27 PM	#17
scooba 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Europe Watch: Anything Posts: 2,586	This is my example http://sheartime.com/products/1969-r...ner-ref-1680-2

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