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Old 18 July 2020, 06:27 PM   #1
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Let the Chronograph running damaged the watch?

Hi,
I happened to run the Chronograph all the time as i use it for indicating UTC .
Do you know from technical point of view that it would damage the watch?
Is that kind of behavior included in the warranty ?
Note: As you see the local time now in my country is 1400, or utc+7(indicates on the left small dial).

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Old 18 July 2020, 06:39 PM   #2
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I run mine when I wear it.

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Old 18 July 2020, 06:45 PM   #3
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I run mine when I wear it.

Interesting application.
How long have you been doing that?

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Old 18 July 2020, 06:45 PM   #4
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Hi,
I happened to run the Chronograph all the time as i use it for indicating UTC .
Do you know from technical point of view that it would damage the watch?
Is that kind of behavior included in the warranty ?
Note: As you see the local time now in my country is 1400, or utc+7(indicates on the left small dial).

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If you are asking whether running the chronograph function continuously damages the watch?

Well yes and no.

Chronograph is part of the movement and it does not damage it per se.

But yes it will cause more wear on the movement which means services will be more frequent overall.

Vertical clutch and Column wheel Chrono modules are less impacted to an extent by constant running / activation compared to horizontal clutch chronograph I am told. But I am no expert on that so can’t give you a definite.

Search these forums, I believe this has been asked and responded to many times.


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Old 18 July 2020, 06:47 PM   #5
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How long have you been doing that?

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I have been wearing it in rotation since I bought it in 2008.
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Old 18 July 2020, 06:53 PM   #6
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I have been wearing it in rotation since I bought it in 2008.
Wow....amazing....thank you for your response...cheers

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Old 18 July 2020, 07:01 PM   #7
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It will do no real harm having the chrono function running 24/7, perhaps power-reserve down a few hours, but myself would recommend just use it when needed to time something.
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Old 18 July 2020, 07:06 PM   #8
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It will do no real harm having the chrono function running 24/7, perhaps power-reserve down a few hours, but myself would recommend just use it when needed to time something.
That's true according what I read from technical spec of Rolex...but the question remain

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Old 18 July 2020, 07:06 PM   #9
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Hi,
I happened to run the Chronograph all the time as i use it for indicating UTC .
Do you know from technical point of view that it would damage the watch?
Is that kind of behavior included in the warranty ?
Note: As you see the local time now in my country is 1400, or utc+7(indicates on the left small dial).

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The advantage of the vertical clutch means it won't put any extra wear or tear on the movement if you keep the chrono running.
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Old 18 July 2020, 07:20 PM   #10
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The advantage of the vertical clutch means it won't put any extra wear or tear on the movement if you keep the chrono running.
Hmmm.... I think so....and when I googled only general Chronograph system answered...rolex has never mentioned not to operate Chronograph continuesly...I believe improvement and technology should have changed .

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Old 18 July 2020, 08:18 PM   #11
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What happens when the watch stops and you have to reset the UTC?
Do you have to wait till 12 for a reset?


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Old 18 July 2020, 08:22 PM   #12
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What happens when the watch stops and you have to reset the UTC?
Do you have to wait till 12 for a reset?


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I have to wait until 7 o'clock am/pm to start again the UTC time

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Old 18 July 2020, 09:32 PM   #13
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Hi,
I happened to run the Chronograph all the time as i use it for indicating UTC .
Do you know from technical point of view that it would damage the watch?
Is that kind of behavior included in the warranty ?
Note: As you see the local time now in my country is 1400, or utc+7(indicates on the left small dial).

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This is why I have ExpII, GMT II, BLRO and 2 SkyDwellers. I wear my Daytona, Sub, SeaD, Milgauss, DD40 during weekends or when I don’t need an extra timezone.


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Old 18 July 2020, 09:53 PM   #14
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This is why I have ExpII, GMT II, BLRO and 2 SkyDwellers. I wear my Daytona, Sub, SeaD, Milgauss, DD40 during weekends or when I don’t need an extra timezone.


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LOL... you're right ....I used to wear GMT and blue sky D ....this is my first time wearing Daytona as daily watch

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Old 18 July 2020, 10:19 PM   #15
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No damage, just added wear and less running time / power reserve.
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Old 18 July 2020, 10:52 PM   #16
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Old 18 July 2020, 11:09 PM   #17
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No damage, just shorter power reserve.

You should consider getting a coaxial Speedmaster. I use the 3 o'clock subdial as a second timezone when traveling. Subdial becomes a watch within a watch telling hours AND minutes



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Old 18 July 2020, 11:10 PM   #18
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This is why I have ExpII, GMT II, BLRO and 2 SkyDwellers. I wear my Daytona, Sub, SeaD, Milgauss, DD40 during weekends or when I don’t need an extra timezone.
It's not all that surprising when you rotate TEN WATCHES that you can find the perfect application for a given function!
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Old 18 July 2020, 11:15 PM   #19
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No damage, just shorter power reserve.

You should consider getting a coaxial Speedmaster. I use the 3 o'clock subdial as a second timezone when traveling. Subdial becomes a watch within a watch telling hours AND minutes



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Old 18 July 2020, 11:15 PM   #20
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It will do no real harm having the chrono function running 24/7, perhaps power-reserve down a few hours, but myself would recommend just use it when needed to time something.
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No damage, just added wear and less running time / power reserve.
This.

Seriously, you should wear a watch with GMT feature.
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Old 18 July 2020, 11:17 PM   #21
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Running the chronograph all the time does put additional wear on the movement, even in a vertical clutch chronograph. This is because the vertical clutch only pertains to the chronograph seconds wheel. The hour and minute counters incur wear when in use which does not happen when the chronograph is stopped.

With that being sad I am not saying you cannot run the chronograph 24/7, just pointing out that additional wear is inevitable.
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Old 18 July 2020, 11:27 PM   #22
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OK ...thank you for all responses ...I appreciated all inputs...so far I will only use it when going abroad a.k.a flying

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Running the chronograph all the time does put additional wear on the movement, even in a vertical clutch chronograph. This is because the vertical clutch only pertains to the chronograph seconds wheel. The hour and minute counters incur wear when in use which does not happen when the chronograph is stopped.

With that being sad I am not saying you cannot run the chronograph 24/7, just pointing out that additional wear is inevitable.





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The Swiss Industry Then, Now, And Tomorrow – A Conversation With Jean-Claude Biver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wigSZSxOkE&t=190s

Approx 1:08 JCB talks about keeping his chronograph running constantly. He's talking about the 1185 Piguet movement specifically which is also used in Blancpain, AP & Cartier among others. Not sure how this translates to the 4030 but doubt there would be any significant difference.

It's a great video for anyone who has an hour or so to kill. But maybe i'm biased as I could listen to him all day long.
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Re the coaxial Speedmaster trick - that's fantastic - I wasn't aware of that.
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Old 19 July 2020, 12:42 AM   #26
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Hmmm.... I think so....and when I googled only general Chronograph system answered...rolex has never mentioned not to operate Chronograph continuesly...I believe improvement and technology should have changed .

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Old 19 July 2020, 12:43 AM   #27
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The Swiss Industry Then, Now, And Tomorrow – A Conversation With Jean-Claude Biver



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wigSZSxOkE&t=190s



Approx 1:08 JCB talks about keeping his chronograph running constantly. He's talking about the 1185 Piguet movement specifically which is also used in Blancpain, AP & Cartier among others. Not sure how this translates to the 4030 but doubt there would be any significant difference.



It's a great video for anyone who has an hour or so to kill. But maybe i'm biased as I could listen to him all day long.
This one

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Old 19 July 2020, 01:04 AM   #28
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Re the coaxial Speedmaster trick - that's fantastic - I wasn't aware of that.
I wasn't either until I saw it in a review for my Omega Moonphase. The trick is you just need to start the chrono at noon or midnight home time and leave it running. When you get to your destination set the main watch time and now you have two timezones displayed. I love it because I still have a hard time reading a 24 hour bezel without adding it up in my head LOL

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Wow! All you people with good eyesight! By the time I get out my readers and focus on a subdial...waaaay easier for me to just do the math and add or subtract the hours for home. Or better yet Exp 2 or GMT made for it. Have to say though I appreciate the creativity using the subdials. Had not considered it before for that purpose. Wish my eyes would oblige.
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Absolutely, you will be inducing more wear because you are engaging more moving parts. You are not likely to wear them out any faster than any other parts though, so a service is a service, and everything gets refreshed at that time.

However, I don't see the point. It's a bit like wearing a watch on your wrist and a stop-watch in your pocket.
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