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GlossSwiss · 31 July 2020, 06:43 AM

So I have this store local to me that is selling this daye-date with box and papers and supposingly mint with no band stretch... My Question is, did they ever come out with the reference 18238 with this type of diamond setting dial? All I ever saw were the square diamond settings but not with the gold surrounds... What you guys think? Seller says its authentic to the watch and not aftermarket...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174086194154

Watchgeek5000 · 31 July 2020, 07:44 AM

I can tell you this. If it’s aftermarket any watch maker who knows Rolex will be able to tell by looking at the back of the dial. Even if the dial is authentic and Aftermarket diamonds were applied afterwards you can tell because the back will have evidence of being filed down a bit so the hands do not rub against the newly added diamond markers. So if anyone tells you that dial was available from the AD, that one You’re buying can still have an after market dial On it. If you purchase from a jeweler have him put it in writing that’s it’s all original then have a second jeweler who is experienced double check it.

Rado63 · 31 July 2020, 08:14 AM

Something about those diamond setting looks a little different to me but I am not an expert. There may have been different diamond dials over the years for the 18238.
You should contact vintage sellers, and ask how much $ to authenticate or what documentation might be with the the watch to indicate factory diamond dial.

joli160 · 31 July 2020, 08:01 PM

Dial looks original but from a later date.

Dials on DD are changed a lot. If indeed original doesn’t impact value imho.

Rolexlover43 · 1 August 2020, 05:51 AM

NOPE. Don't buy!

Dilinger · 4 September 2020, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Watchgeek5000

I can tell you this. If it’s aftermarket any watch maker who knows Rolex will be able to tell by looking at the back of the dial. Even if the dial is authentic and Aftermarket diamonds were applied afterwards you can tell because the back will have evidence of being filed down a bit so the hands do not rub against the newly added diamond markers. So if anyone tells you that dial was available from the AD, that one You’re buying can still have an after market dial On it. If you purchase from a jeweler have him put it in writing that’s it’s all original then have a second jeweler who is experienced double check it.

You mean that factory diamond dials have ''raised'' hands (in comparison to non-diamond dials) so that they wont rub against the diamonds?

31 July 2020, 06:43 AM	#1
GlossSwiss Banned Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 46	Did the Day-date 18238 come with this diamond dial? So I have this store local to me that is selling this daye-date with box and papers and supposingly mint with no band stretch... My Question is, did they ever come out with the reference 18238 with this type of diamond setting dial? All I ever saw were the square diamond settings but not with the gold surrounds... What you guys think? Seller says its authentic to the watch and not aftermarket... https://www.ebay.com/itm/174086194154

31 July 2020, 08:14 AM	#3
Rado63 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Alan Location: Northern, CA Watch: 116334 Posts: 2,215	Something about those diamond setting looks a little different to me but I am not an expert. There may have been different diamond dials over the years for the 18238. You should contact vintage sellers, and ask how much $ to authenticate or what documentation might be with the the watch to indicate factory diamond dial. __________________ Rolex 116334 126600 228235

31 July 2020, 08:01 PM	#4
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,758	Dial looks original but from a later date. Dials on DD are changed a lot. If indeed original doesn’t impact value imho. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

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31 July 2020, 07:44 AM	#2
Watchgeek5000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Brooklyn USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 1,622	I can tell you this. If it’s aftermarket any watch maker who knows Rolex will be able to tell by looking at the back of the dial. Even if the dial is authentic and Aftermarket diamonds were applied afterwards you can tell because the back will have evidence of being filed down a bit so the hands do not rub against the newly added diamond markers. So if anyone tells you that dial was available from the AD, that one You’re buying can still have an after market dial On it. If you purchase from a jeweler have him put it in writing that’s it’s all original then have a second jeweler who is experienced double check it.

1 August 2020, 05:51 AM	#5
Rolexlover43 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Somewhere Posts: 121	NOPE. Don't buy!

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