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Old 20 August 2020, 10:53 AM   #1
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Hypothetical......If a new movement is introduced to the Submariner...

BIG IF.... Exactly what changes might be made to improve, said movement?
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Old 20 August 2020, 10:55 AM   #2
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Longer power reserve which you’d notice, buzzy other enhancements you wouldn’t
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Old 20 August 2020, 10:56 AM   #3
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Longer power reserve which you’d notice, buzzy other enhancements you wouldn’t
48 to 72?
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Old 20 August 2020, 10:59 AM   #4
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48 to 72?
Yeah, I'm thinking this would probably be the extent of it. The possibility of this didn't stop me from buying a Sub yesterday.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:00 AM   #5
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70-hour reserve is probably the only tangible improvement to users I guess
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:03 AM   #6
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Yeah, I'm thinking this would probably be the extent of it. The possibility of this didn't stop me from buying a Sub yesterday.
And a pat on the back to you! Congrats

Leads me to the question.....would you prefer before or after said change?
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:03 AM   #7
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:04 AM   #8
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:06 AM   #9
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48 to 70 and all those wanting it go 6 to 12.. drum roll and symbol

I’ll see myself out..
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:10 AM   #10
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And a pat on the back to you! Congrats

Leads me to the question.....would you prefer before or after said change?
Assuming that the power reserve was the only thing changed, then I would say after. This would only be because it was newer though, I mean do I actually need my watch to have a 72 power, not at all.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:13 AM   #11
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Assuming that the power reserve was the only thing changed, then I would say after. This would only be because it was newer though, I mean do I actually need my watch to have a 72 power, not at all.
I'm thinking before? As a discontinued piece? I think you made the right choice.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:17 AM   #12
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Same improvements they made to any 32xx movement. Sub is just going to get 3235 for date version and probably 3230 for ND. 3235 will be same as anywhere where it is used. 3230 will be same but just without date.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:21 AM   #13
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I'm actually not a fan of a "new" movement on an existing model, 3135 seemed to do well...
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:22 AM   #14
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:33 AM   #15
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Seems like there might be a couple other minor changes besides just the movement. But, if history repeats itself, they will start with PM only (platinum sub???), and not make changes to SS for two years.

What’s a lad to do if you are in the market for 116610? Sit tight, my dealer doesn’t have one for me right now anyway.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:39 AM   #16
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Sub movement

One that required tapering of the bracelet lugs.
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I think the new movement is almost a given with nothing different from the other models it is already in. I don’t really expect a revised case but I think there could be some other tweaks that will make people go nuts. Blue dial and bezel in SS? Oysterflex PM version?
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One that required tapering of the bracelet lugs.

Yes, tapering the lugs will definitely make it run better. Cheers! Great idea. (No sarcasm; complete sincerity).

Only other meaningful change would be 70 hours. But 48 is plenty good and the 3135 performs quite well, thank you, Rolex!
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I think the new movement is almost a given with nothing different from the other models it is already in. I don’t really expect a revised case but I think there could be some other tweaks that will make people go nuts. Blue dial and bezel in SS? Oysterflex PM version?


This is interesting. So many say that Rolex only puts blue dials on PM. Yet, the 114200 and 300 have blue dials, and so does the yacht master, and the skydweller. All of which are sunburst nonetheless. I for one am not opposed to it with the sub! Imagine the waitlist!!
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Im ready to bet 100 bucks that new movement with 70hrs power reserve is introduced to the Sub.
Its the movement they use on the Datejust, easy move and expected!
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Assuming that the power reserve was the only thing changed, then I would say after. This would only be because it was newer though, I mean do I actually need my watch to have a 72 power, not at all.
Exactly by making the spring barrel thinner just to get a bit more power-reserve IMHO is not a huge improvement.Plus the fact there are still a few problems with the 32 series movements as many have already found out on forum.And even with this extra power-reserve would expect most will end up on one of these so called winding machines.So in the real world will it be better than the 31 series movements extremely doubtful.
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Old 20 August 2020, 08:58 PM   #23
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As others have said, eventually all Rolex will see the 33xx movement update.

As for other changes, I'll have to see what they are before I decide to add one. This old thing does me just fine



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Old 20 August 2020, 09:09 PM   #24
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As others have said, eventually all Rolex will see the 33xx movement update.

As for other changes, I'll have to see what they are before I decide to add one. This old thing does me just fine



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Simply gorgeous! I expect mine to be arriving in a day or two!!! No wait list, a single text to my SA and boom!
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Hypothetical......If a new movement is introduced to the Submariner...

then I am lucky to own the proven and trusted (older) movement.
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Old 20 August 2020, 09:32 PM   #26
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Simply gorgeous! I expect mine to be arriving in a day or two!!! No wait list, a single text to my SA and boom!
That’s awesome Don, I truly hope you enjoy it as much as I do mine

I look forward to the incoming
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Old 20 August 2020, 09:33 PM   #27
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One tangible difference, if the 3235 is used, the rotor is now supported with a ball bearing race. You can definitely hear it vs the silent cylinder/post bearing used on the 3135.
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Old 20 August 2020, 09:37 PM   #28
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A new movement is all guaranteed. A new PM Sub with a green dial as well.
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There is a lot more advancement in the 32 series movement over the older 31 series than just additional power reserve. It has been explained many many times on the forum. Rolex in their conservative development style would only update a movement to address deficiencies. Ceramic rotor bearings is a huge leap forward and updates the Rolex movement to current industry standards. Additional cased up accuracy standards is just another. I know change is hard for the typical Rolex enthusiast but Rolex wouldn’t make upgrades if they really didn’t feel it was required. The Submariner will get the newer and now several years old 32 series movement.
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That’s awesome Don, I truly hope you enjoy it as much as I do mine

I look forward to the incoming
Thank you, Brian!!!
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