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12 October 2020, 08:14 PM | #1 |
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I figured someone here might be a bit of a early Panerai expert, or own one or two, so I'd ask some questions. Been getting into the early Panerai stuff for awhile but have realized information is a bit limited. I enjoy the thought of owning a PV one day, but it seems to be a bit of a minefield. With that in mind, some questions if there are any collectors here:
1) Prices are all over the place. Some B&P 5218-201s are 20K, others are 50K. I know condition and completeness affect this but it still seems odd to have so much variance. I also notice that many of them for sale sit, for ages. It doesn't inspire a bunch of confidence. Any thoughts on the health and stability of the PV market? 2) Authenticity? I checked with Panerai and they will only authenticate back to 1998. So, no PV. Ultimate buyer beware it appears. I read that these used to be heavily faked. If there is no verification service, is it really just a "buyer beware" market? Any rock solid dealers that specialize in PV stuff you would recommend to ensure authentic pieces (I've seen a story or two on fakes making it to auction at Sothebys and the like so this seems a genuine concern). 3) Service. Will Panerai service a PV? If so, would you want them to? I wouldn't want hands swapped, and I am assuming they wouldn't have parts (Unitas) anyway. If Panerai is a no go, is there a place you know that specializes in care for PVs? It is such an interesting watch, and they look lovely. But it does seem a bit of a minefield for the uninformed. Appreciate any advice or knowledge.
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14 October 2020, 03:57 AM | #2 |
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136 views and no answers I think tells me what I need to know. Heh. Very limited market and perhaps not worth playing in without significant knowledge. Thanks anyway all!
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15 October 2020, 01:12 AM | #3 | |
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Now, in terms of the current PV market, prices are indeed all over the place and many watches are either super reps, or originals but without a full set. Getting an original, full set PV in a good condition is very hard and it takes time looking into and researching. That being said, there are reliable dealers out there (a couple that I know in Italy, plus one in HK) that can source a great condition PV at a reasonable price. Bear in mind that prices for some of them will be well above 20k range, so if you're looking for a Slytech (5218-205/A) or Marina Militare (5218-203/A), then be prepared to pay anywhere between 40-50k. For a non-matching Marina Militare it's even more. Hope this helps.
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15 October 2020, 07:23 AM | #5 |
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No worries. If you’re looking for tritium references in the Richemont era of Panerai, then do a quick search for “Panerai OP6502” on C24 and you’ll get plenty of results. 004 Pre A is my favorite reference from that period.
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