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Old 20 October 2020, 01:25 AM   #1
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Royal Oak Minute Repeater Supersonnerie Ice Salmon Dial?

I was just perusing the AP website and stumbled across a new minute repeated supersonnerie with what appears to be an ice salmon/light rose dial. This piece looks pretty incredible....but when you go to click the watch "the page you requested does not exist"

Anyone know anything about this??
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Old 20 October 2020, 01:48 AM   #2
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Yes, it is listed but link doesn't work.. same as blue and black but with salmon dial...

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Old 20 October 2020, 02:01 AM   #3
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Old 20 October 2020, 02:07 AM   #4
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26591TI.OO.1220TI.02

It's a titanium piece.
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Old 20 October 2020, 03:58 AM   #5
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Hope that is more orangey than yellowy.
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Old 20 October 2020, 04:36 AM   #6
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looks amazing - I am happy for conkers, horolupe, about 5 middle easter sheikhs,kevin hart, john mayer, the dude from the fugess and the one or two people in Asia that get the allocation.
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Old 20 October 2020, 04:38 AM   #7
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looks amazing - I am happy for conkers, horolupe, about 5 middle easter sheikhs,kevin hart, john mayer, the dude from the fugess and the one or two people in Asia that get the allocation.
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Old 20 October 2020, 08:42 AM   #8
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I imagine, but am not certain, it is another Yoshida edition. The Japanese market for AP limited editions is red hot and very few leave the country. AP kindly facilitated me getting one of the 44 ROO platinum Yoshida editions. I didn’t get the call on this one so sold out I guess.
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Old 20 October 2020, 01:21 PM   #9
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Old 20 October 2020, 02:07 PM   #10
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looks amazing - I am happy for conkers, horolupe, about 5 middle easter sheikhs,kevin hart, john mayer, the dude from the fugess and the one or two people in Asia that get the allocation.
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Old 20 October 2020, 02:38 PM   #11
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looks amazing - I am happy for conkers, horolupe, about 5 middle easter sheikhs,kevin hart, john mayer, the dude from the fugess and the one or two people in Asia that get the allocation.



Stunning piece to drool over
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Old 20 October 2020, 02:49 PM   #12
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looks amazing - I am happy for conkers, horolupe, about 5 middle easter sheikhs,kevin hart, john mayer, the dude from the fugess and the one or two people in Asia that get the allocation.
best comment I’ve read in awhile
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Old 20 October 2020, 06:57 PM   #13
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I imagine, but am not certain, it is another Yoshida edition. The Japanese market for AP limited editions is red hot and very few leave the country. AP kindly facilitated me getting one of the 44 ROO platinum Yoshida editions. I didn’t get the call on this one so sold out I guess.
I still find it incredible that the Japan market is able to exclusively absorb +100 pieces that are >$150k each compared to other markets (UK, France, Germany, USA, China...)
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Old 20 October 2020, 07:43 PM   #14
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I still find it incredible that the Japan market is able to exclusively absorb +100 pieces that are >$150k each compared to other markets (UK, France, Germany, USA, China...)
Then you must have never been to Japan, there is a substantial amount of wealth.
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Old 20 October 2020, 08:04 PM   #15
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Then you must have never been to Japan, there is a substantial amount of wealth.

I have, but wealth is prevalent in most OECD countries so that’s hardly a defining feature.

On a per capita basis, Japanese consumers punch well above their weight on APs top end pieces so my question remains
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Old 20 October 2020, 08:37 PM   #16
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Just my opinion, but I think that the Japan market is highly concentrated geographically and AP has a lot of direct exposure to a lot of clients from relatively few outlets. Thus AP can justify focused releases because they have direct knowledge of what that customer base wants.

Contrast that to the US and 'our' well documented comments as to how few AD's there are relative to the population/number of states and that may be the answer.

In Europe we have focused releases, most recently the POG in the ROO, and historically there have been plenty of European focused models and again that maybe because AP has a proper presence in Europe.

I'm pretty sure that AP have plans to better service the US market though and I won't be surprised if over the next few years that there are more AP outlets in the US and then some US focused products. I'm thinking something really gaudy, probably an AP Trump model, or a sports model from a sport that doesn't exist anywhere else in the World. :)

Just finally, I love the thought of the engineering in this new model, but I honestly can't imagine how salmon pink is even a thing. I clearly lived far too long in the US and my tastes are now undeniably LOUD, so salmon pink is far too subtle and delicate for me. That's also probably why it isn't available in the US.
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Does anyone know the P.V.P.?
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Old 21 October 2020, 02:29 AM   #18
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I have, but wealth is prevalent in most OECD countries so that’s hardly a defining feature.

On a per capita basis, Japanese consumers punch well above their weight on APs top end pieces so my question remains
I think the Japanese love collecting things and are culturally less opposed to spending money on quality items (unlike Germany for instance only cars are accepted there as expensive items). All this mixed with a good amount of wealth = lots of special japan only editions.
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I don’t have stats to back this up but I am of the view that customer loyalty to the AP brand in Japan is higher than anywhere else in the world backed up by Yoshida being closer to AP probably than any other partner globally. Given the wealth in Japan coupled with this loyalty it is easy to imagine a couple of hundred wealthy collectors there hoovering up 5-10 expensive pieces a year. In the West how many customers do you know buying 10 high end APs a year. There are certainly several more in Asia more broadly, but Japan is the epicentre. As I say just my speculation but I have lived there and know the place a little. Also bear in mind that Japanese are the most discrete people imaginable so the big collectors have zero social media presence. All hidden away for personal enjoyment but with huge passion.
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Old 21 October 2020, 09:41 PM   #20
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I don’t have stats to back this up but I am of the view that customer loyalty to the AP brand in Japan is higher than anywhere else in the world backed up by Yoshida being closer to AP probably than any other partner globally. Given the wealth in Japan coupled with this loyalty it is easy to imagine a couple of hundred wealthy collectors there hoovering up 5-10 expensive pieces a year. In the West how many customers do you know buying 10 high end APs a year. There are certainly several more in Asia more broadly, but Japan is the epicentre. As I say just my speculation but I have lived there and know the place a little. Also bear in mind that Japanese are the most discrete people imaginable so the big collectors have zero social media presence. All hidden away for personal enjoyment but with huge passion.
Great post Roger... fully agree specially about part of discretion and loyalty. Even new/younger generation of collectors doesn't act like can I say everybody else these days

That is also the reason you can't see many Yoshida limited models floating around in grey market...

It's not just an AP thing... look at Bulgari... how many people that are into watches even know about Hiroshi Senju watterfall Octo Finissimos... you can barely find and wrist shot of them on internet...
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I asked about Japan demand during my last boutique visit in Singapore and was told that AP disproportionally outsells other peer manufacturers in Japan which I found interesting. We speculated as to why (style, branding, marketing, social media impact) - hard to say but the SA said limited pieces for that market are highly in demand (and by inference will continue to be supplied).
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Old 22 October 2020, 12:09 AM   #22
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Great post Roger... fully agree specially about part of discretion and loyalty. Even new/younger generation of collectors doesn't act like can I say everybody else these days

That is also the reason you can't see many Yoshida limited models floating around in grey market...

It's not just an AP thing... look at Bulgari... how many people that are into watches even know about Hiroshi Senju watterfall Octo Finissimos... you can barely find and wrist shot of them on internet...
Spot on my friend!

I have certainly learned my lesson from sharing my collection extensively on social media. Dialling back (pardon the pun) a lot for the moment.
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