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Porsche544 · 27 December 2021, 03:41 AM

I would like to know your opinion on which watch I should keep?

16570-Polar complete with box, papers and tag (2002). Almost mint.

16710-Coke with box only (1996) Tritium. Case has multiple dings. Dial is clean.

Thank you everyone.

dpt.calvin · 27 December 2021, 03:44 AM

16710 - no question.

16710 is Rolex's most versatile watch with three bezel inserts. Throw in a Jubilee bracelet and you've really got some options.

If you don't plan to sell, box with no papers is a non-issue. Selling a mint polar 16570 complete set will be easy peasy.

/thread

Verdi · 27 December 2021, 03:47 AM

Keep the one you like the most.

Why would you let others tell you which one to keep? or are you looking for info regarding value?

dpt.calvin · 27 December 2021, 03:49 AM

And if the 16710 in question is the same pictured in your avatar, that faded bezel is too good to let go.

Porsche544 · 27 December 2021, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpt.calvin

And if the 16710 in question is the same pictured in your avatar, that faded bezel is too good to let go.

That was a previous 1675 I owned and is now sold. Thanks.

TimeAZ · 27 December 2021, 03:55 AM

No-brainer, Polar for me... love a white dial Rolex, esp. the older 40mm Exp II. The fact that it is a complete set, mint condition, and newer are all just icing on the cake.

Porsche544 · 27 December 2021, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verdi

Keep the one you like the most.

Why would you let others tell you which one to keep? or are you looking for info regarding value?

Thanks Mitch. I really like the Polar better, but I feel guilty to let the 16710 go. I don't know what to do hence asking everyone's opinion.

dpt.calvin · 27 December 2021, 04:05 AM

The polar 16570 is my favorite Explorer II. 40mm makes so much more sense than 42mm, IMO.

But the versatility of the 16710 is undeniable.

Suppose it also depends on what else you have in your collection. If you have other black dials, maybe the polar is the way to go.

Porsche544 · 27 December 2021, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeAZ

No-brainer, Polar for me... love a white dial Rolex, esp. the older 40mm Exp II. The fact that it is a complete set, mint condition, and newer are all just icing on the cake.

Great. Thanks.

ltmgeller · 27 December 2021, 04:23 AM

My vote would be for the GMT.

Stan Cooper · 27 December 2021, 04:39 AM

16710 would be the one to keep for me. You've owned a 1675 and now a 16710, so you clearly know and appreciate the GMT-Master's history.

The 16570 history as a spelunker's watch with the fixed 24 hour bezel was originally just to let the wearer know whether it was night or day outside the cave; the original 1655 Explorer II didn't even have an independently adjustable hour or 24 hour hand for displaying a second time zone.

I do like the steel bezel and general appearance of the 16570 polar, but wish the bezel rotated. With the 3186 movement and independently adjustable hour hand, though, it accommodates a second time zone like the 16710, so the lack of that feature in the earlier versions is mute.

I'd keep the 16710 because of the GMT-Master history and the versatility of being able to change bezel inserts and bracelets.

Just my $.02.

SaintMickey · 27 December 2021, 04:40 AM

Explorer II that Pepsi seems dead (if its the one in your avatar)

Stan Cooper · 27 December 2021, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintMickey

Explorer II that Pepsi seems dead (if its the one in your avatar)

In Post #5 he said the avatar photo is of his earlier 1675, since sold.

SaintMickey · 27 December 2021, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Cooper

In Post #5 he said the avatar photo is of his earlier 1675, since sold.

SaintMickey · 27 December 2021, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche544

I would like to know your opinion on which watch I should keep?

16570-Polar complete with box, papers and tag (2002). Almost mint.

16710-Coke with box only (1996) Tritium. Case has multiple dings. Dial is clean.

Thank you everyone.

Pictures of both please...

kieselguhr · 27 December 2021, 04:46 AM

16710 for more utility. Polar if looks

Verdi · 27 December 2021, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche544

Thanks Mitch. I really like the Polar better, but I feel guilty to let the 16710 go. I don't know what to do hence asking everyone's opinion.

Well, I voted for the Polar.

Also, I would feel like letting none of them go….but if you like the Polar better keep it. There are less full sets of Polars around than Cokes.

Stan Cooper · 27 December 2021, 05:00 AM

I personally don't believe the original papers are important when selling if you've had the watch serviced by an RSC and have the warranty card and service documentation.

Jackie Daytona · 27 December 2021, 05:05 AM

Really a toss up. Could go either way. What do you like and use primarily or feel more attached to?

springer · 27 December 2021, 05:12 AM

I prefer the GMT. As others mentioned, it is much more versatile - at least for me.

dpt.calvin · 27 December 2021, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

I prefer the GMT. As others mentioned, it is much more versatile - at least for me.

I see what you did there. Whether intentional or not...

28mm · 27 December 2021, 05:20 AM

16710 for sure!

karleone · 27 December 2021, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche544

Thanks Mitch. I really like the Polar better, but I feel guilty to let the 16710 go. I don't know what to do hence asking everyone's opinion.

You like the polar better so that’s the one to keep!
Coming from someone who loves the GMT 16710 and hates Explorer 2 in general!

Cobar65 · 27 December 2021, 06:32 AM

GMT for sure.

Gerry62 · 27 December 2021, 06:51 AM

16710

BNA/LION · 27 December 2021, 10:17 AM

16710. You like it better and of the two that's the one I'd keep.

Porsche544 · 27 December 2021, 01:15 PM

I appreciate every single comment. What I noticed is that no one mentioned that the 16710 is missing papers. I am glad that it’s irrelevant to keeping the watch or not. I guess the 16710 stays. Thanks all.

996marty · 27 December 2021, 01:27 PM

I’d be keeping the 16710 in my opinion a way better watch but everyone is different

GMT Aviator · 28 December 2021, 03:10 AM

If it were me I’d keep the GMT.

Bxtek · 28 December 2021, 03:37 AM

Between the two, your 16710 Coke would be the keeper for me! I am looking at the evidence that you give, with the Polar being near mint and the Coke having multiple dings in the case. It sounds like the Coke gets quite a bit more wrist time, and shows that you like it over the Polar too?

View Poll Results: Which watch would you keep?
16570-Polar complete with Box, papers, tag (2002)	33	36.26%
16710-Coke with Box only (1996)	58	63.74%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

27 December 2021, 03:41 AM	#1
Porsche544 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Real Name: Gerald Location: CT USA Watch: 16710 16570 Posts: 201	Which watch should I keep? 16710 or 16570 I would like to know your opinion on which watch I should keep? 16570-Polar complete with box, papers and tag (2002). Almost mint. 16710-Coke with box only (1996) Tritium. Case has multiple dings. Dial is clean. Thank you everyone.

27 December 2021, 03:44 AM	#2
dpt.calvin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: TRF Posts: 2,270	16710 - no question. 16710 is Rolex's most versatile watch with three bezel inserts. Throw in a Jubilee bracelet and you've really got some options. If you don't plan to sell, box with no papers is a non-issue. Selling a mint polar 16570 complete set will be easy peasy. /thread __________________ 16570 \| 16710 \| 116710 \| 116500 76214 \| 79090 \| 79030 \| 79830

27 December 2021, 03:47 AM	#3
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	Keep the one you like the most. Why would you let others tell you which one to keep? or are you looking for info regarding value? __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

27 December 2021, 03:49 AM	#4
dpt.calvin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: TRF Posts: 2,270	And if the 16710 in question is the same pictured in your avatar, that faded bezel is too good to let go. __________________ 16570 \| 16710 \| 116710 \| 116500 76214 \| 79090 \| 79030 \| 79830

27 December 2021, 03:55 AM	#6
TimeAZ "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: USA Watch: Rolex & Tudor Posts: 2,240	No-brainer, Polar for me... love a white dial Rolex, esp. the older 40mm Exp II. The fact that it is a complete set, mint condition, and newer are all just icing on the cake. __________________ The perfect blossom is a rare thing. You could spend your life looking for one, and it would not be a wasted life.

27 December 2021, 04:05 AM	#8
dpt.calvin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: TRF Posts: 2,270	The polar 16570 is my favorite Explorer II. 40mm makes so much more sense than 42mm, IMO. But the versatility of the 16710 is undeniable. Suppose it also depends on what else you have in your collection. If you have other black dials, maybe the polar is the way to go. __________________ 16570 \| 16710 \| 116710 \| 116500 76214 \| 79090 \| 79030 \| 79830

27 December 2021, 04:23 AM	#10
ltmgeller 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 22,574	My vote would be for the GMT. __________________ Oh, look at the time... Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2019

27 December 2021, 04:39 AM	#11
Stan Cooper 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Real Name: Stan Cooper Location: Sonoma County, CA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 2,888	16710 would be the one to keep for me. You've owned a 1675 and now a 16710, so you clearly know and appreciate the GMT-Master's history. The 16570 history as a spelunker's watch with the fixed 24 hour bezel was originally just to let the wearer know whether it was night or day outside the cave; the original 1655 Explorer II didn't even have an independently adjustable hour or 24 hour hand for displaying a second time zone. I do like the steel bezel and general appearance of the 16570 polar, but wish the bezel rotated. With the 3186 movement and independently adjustable hour hand, though, it accommodates a second time zone like the 16710, so the lack of that feature in the earlier versions is mute. I'd keep the 16710 because of the GMT-Master history and the versatility of being able to change bezel inserts and bracelets. Just my $.02.

27 December 2021, 04:40 AM	#12
SaintMickey Banned Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: USA Posts: 885	Explorer II that Pepsi seems dead (if its the one in your avatar)

27 December 2021, 04:46 AM	#16
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,623	16710 for more utility. Polar if looks

27 December 2021, 05:00 AM	#18
Stan Cooper 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Real Name: Stan Cooper Location: Sonoma County, CA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 2,888	I personally don't believe the original papers are important when selling if you've had the watch serviced by an RSC and have the warranty card and service documentation. __________________ ♛16710 GMT-Master II, ♛1915 Rolex WW1 Trench Watch, Zelos Thresher 500m GMT Meteorite, Zelos Swordfish 40 200m Ti Blood Moon Meteorite, Hamilton Pilot Chronograph, Ball Roadmaster Pilot GMT COSC Chronometer, Zelos Mako 300M Traveler GMT Meteorite, Seiko SSC813 quartz solar powered chronograph It's weird being the same age as old people. - Stan

27 December 2021, 05:05 AM	#19
Jackie Daytona 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: Brian Location: Nashville Watch: 16750 Posts: 6,618	Really a toss up. Could go either way. What do you like and use primarily or feel more attached to? __________________ 16750 \| 6516(wife’s) \| 126334 \| 16570 \| SBGA413 \| SRPE33 \| 126610LV

27 December 2021, 05:12 AM	#20
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	I prefer the GMT. As others mentioned, it is much more versatile - at least for me. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

27 December 2021, 05:20 AM	#22
28mm "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: USA Posts: 1,318	16710 for sure! __________________ 126610LV • 16613 • 116710LN • 16710 116713 • 126710BLNR • 116520 • 16570 • 214270 • 16622 • 116400V • 124300 • 114300 * 116334 • 116519LN • 126720VTNR

27 December 2021, 06:32 AM	#24
Cobar65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Real Name: Everett Location: Europe Watch: Vintage only Posts: 231	GMT for sure. __________________ 1986 Rolex 16750 GMT 1963 Rolex 5504 Air King 1966 Tudor 7928 Submariner Regards, Everett *Two-Factor Authentication enabled*

27 December 2021, 06:51 AM	#25
Gerry62 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Italy EU Watch: Rolex Panerai Posts: 7,502	16710

27 December 2021, 10:17 AM	#26
BNA/LION 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 25,643	16710. You like it better and of the two that's the one I'd keep. __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

27 December 2021, 01:15 PM	#27
Porsche544 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Real Name: Gerald Location: CT USA Watch: 16710 16570 Posts: 201	I appreciate every single comment. What I noticed is that no one mentioned that the 16710 is missing papers. I am glad that it’s irrelevant to keeping the watch or not. I guess the 16710 stays. Thanks all.

27 December 2021, 01:27 PM	#28
996marty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Uk Watch: RolexGMT/Tudor7928 Posts: 4,182	I’d be keeping the 16710 in my opinion a way better watch but everyone is different

28 December 2021, 03:10 AM	#29
GMT Aviator 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: London Posts: 3,318	If it were me I’d keep the GMT.

28 December 2021, 03:37 AM	#30
Bxtek "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: CA Posts: 2,636	Between the two, your 16710 Coke would be the keeper for me! I am looking at the evidence that you give, with the Polar being near mint and the Coke having multiple dings in the case. It sounds like the Coke gets quite a bit more wrist time, and shows that you like it over the Polar too?

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