The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Old 10 January 2022, 03:42 AM   #1
Cloudstrife
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Sweden
Posts: 8
AD: Flipper?

How will an AD know that people are flipping? Do they have some tracking somehow?
Cloudstrife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 03:44 AM   #2
dan993
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Kings Bromley
Posts: 444
Are you for real?
dan993 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 03:49 AM   #3
Gab27
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: MD/NC
Watch: 114060
Posts: 2,591
Rolex employs a crack team of psychics who screen every prospective buyer in conjunction with the pre-sale TSA body scan.
Gab27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 03:52 AM   #4
subby718
"TRF" Member
 
subby718's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: United Kingdom
Watch: 116610LN
Posts: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gab27 View Post
Rolex employs a crack team of psychics who screen every prospective buyer in conjunction with the pre-sale TSA body scan.
subby718 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:05 AM   #5
inadeje
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
inadeje's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Miami
Watch: me lose count.
Posts: 5,907
The new Rolex building in Geneva is being built under the strictest secrecy, several ADs have told me in private that Interpol, the CIA and FBI were all engaged as consultants.

What is lesser known is that this is actually a huge new intelligence department which will use a blend of satellite imagery, CCTV (in those countries where it’s prevalent) and cutting edge biometric facial recognition, all linked to international databases to verify who is wearing a given watch, while real-time cross checking against sales data. It is believed that this new AFT (Anti-Flip-Technology) will be operational in beta rollout by August 2022. It is rumored that Rolex is currently ironing out false positives in which wife’s or family members could occasionally wear a given watch. Both my AD intelligence contact and spy in Geneva advise that a solution is being found to this final dilemma before launching.

The recent removal of buyer names on the latest warranty cards was designed as a decoy to introduce a false sense of flipper security so as to catch as many unruly flippers as possible with the new AFT (unconfirmed acronym which my contact says could change) technology.

__________________
♛ 218206 Roman ♛ 116689 ♛ 126710BLRO ♛ 16520 white ♛ 16523 white ♛ 16610 ♛ 5513 Birth Year - ✠ Patek Philippe 5980/1R-001 - AP 26331ST Panda - Panerai Bronzo 671 & 111, Ω Speedmaster 1957 Broad Arrow, Cartier Santos XL - Montblanc TimeWalker Chrono 41
inadeje is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:06 AM   #6
dpt.calvin
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: TRF
Posts: 2,270
Remember that covid vaccine?
__________________
16570 | 16710 | 116710 | 116500
76214 | 79090 | 79030 | 79830
dpt.calvin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:08 AM   #7
Swearengen
"TRF" Member
 
Swearengen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Real Name: Gabriel
Location: London, UK
Posts: 1,859
It's the Gates/Rothchild/Soros chip, that's how they do it
__________________

1680 1675 16800 16570 16710 17000 16613 17013

Gone but not forgotten 16610LV 1016
16234
Swearengen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:09 AM   #8
train-time
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Real Name: Plankton
Location: US
Watch: less
Posts: 4,161
Quote:
Originally Posted by inadeje View Post
The new Rolex building in Geneva is being built under the strictest secrecy, several ADs have told me in private that Interpol, the CIA and FBI were all engaged as consultants.

What is lesser known is that this is actually a huge new intelligence department which will use a blend of satellite imagery, CCTV (in those countries where it’s prevalent) and cutting edge biometric facial recognition, all linked to international databases to verify who is wearing a given watch, while real-time cross checking against sales data. It is believed that this new AFT (Anti-Flip-Technology) will be operational in beta rollout by August 2022. It is rumored that Rolex is currently ironing out false positives in which wife’s or family members could occasionally wear a given watch. Both my AD intelligence contact and spy in Geneva advise that a solution is being found to this final dilemma before launching.

The removal of buyer names on the latest warranty cards was designed as a decoy to introduce a false sense of flipper security so as to catch as many unruly flippers as possible with the new AFT (internal acronym which could change) technology.

Spot on
train-time is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:11 AM   #9
bankermm
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Real Name: Michael
Location: Boston
Watch: 116520
Posts: 95
The vaccine chip (Booster 3.0 and later) tracks all Rolex inventory and what it resells for then uploads it to the Blockchain
bankermm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:13 AM   #10
john333
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
john333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Gotham
Posts: 1,274
Quote:
Originally Posted by dpt.calvin View Post
Remember that covid vaccine?

Hahaha.
john333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:14 AM   #11
Rolexatlast
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: UK
Posts: 830
Simple, require repeat buyers to bring along all the watches they have bought previously before ADs sell them another
Rolexatlast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:15 AM   #12
Danny83
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
Danny83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Real Name: Danny
Location: Bay Area CA
Watch: Yellow Gold
Posts: 20,314
How can you tell when your AD is a flipper is the real question
Danny83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:16 AM   #13
subby718
"TRF" Member
 
subby718's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: United Kingdom
Watch: 116610LN
Posts: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny83 View Post
How can you tell when your AD is a flipper is the real question
That’s what I thought the thread was going to be about.
subby718 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:27 AM   #14
TimepieceRPP
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: UK
Posts: 1,120
maybe you can think of how much you will spend on this AD first. if you are going to spend a million on all the Ladies DJ with diamonds per month, AD wont care a about it! haha
TimepieceRPP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:43 AM   #15
gerry100
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: NY
Posts: 752
Many at the NSA are wearing shiny new Subs.... Hmmmm
gerry100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 04:56 AM   #16
malba2366
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: NY
Posts: 313
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloudstrife View Post
How will an AD know that people are flipping? Do they have some tracking somehow?
The ADs are the ones doing most of the flipping. The quantities the grey dealers have are not from individuals buying and flipping one watch at a time.
malba2366 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 05:11 AM   #17
Nav01L
"TRF" Member
 
Nav01L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Real Name: Fred
Location: Zurich
Posts: 2,697
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolexatlast View Post
Simple, require repeat buyers to bring along all the watches they have bought previously before ADs sell them another
Haven’t seen that done yet, but I do have good and long lasting relationships with some folks at my ADs, they’d notice if I never wore or referenced a watch I bought from them again.
__________________
Greetings from Switzerland

Remember, the dignity you surrender at your AD‘s doorstep will never be recovered by wearing the watch he may get you.
Nav01L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 05:13 AM   #18
vh2k
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: USA
Posts: 3,018
Quote:
Originally Posted by malba2366 View Post
The ADs are the ones doing most of the flipping. The quantities the grey dealers have are not from individuals buying and flipping one watch at a time.
Zero evidence of this. All the major secondary resellers have said the overwhelming majority of stock comes from private sellers, private collections, and estate sales.
vh2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 05:18 AM   #19
paxjedi
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Real Name: Montemayor
Location: Madrid
Posts: 425
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolexatlast View Post
Simple, require repeat buyers to bring along all the watches they have bought previously before ADs sell them another
This!

Will be perfect for that other fella who asked the question last week if he should bring his entire Rolex collection to his AD to put him on the preferred list.
__________________
You never actually own a Rolex.
Eventually your son inherits your place on the waiting list.
paxjedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 05:28 AM   #20
noshake
"TRF" Member
 
noshake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: 🌐
Watch: BLNR
Posts: 1,324
Quote:
Originally Posted by bankermm View Post
The vaccine chip (Booster 3.0 and later) tracks all Rolex inventory and what it resells for then uploads it to the Blockchain
noshake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 05:31 AM   #21
Jpccarguy
2024 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: In the Present
Posts: 1,018
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerry100 View Post
Many at the NSA are wearing shiny new Subs.... Hmmmm
Jpccarguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 05:31 AM   #22
noshake
"TRF" Member
 
noshake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: 🌐
Watch: BLNR
Posts: 1,324
Quote:
Originally Posted by inadeje View Post
The new Rolex building in Geneva is being built under the strictest secrecy, several ADs have told me in private that Interpol, the CIA and FBI were all engaged as consultants.

What is lesser known is that this is actually a huge new intelligence department which will use a blend of satellite imagery, CCTV (in those countries where it’s prevalent) and cutting edge biometric facial recognition, all linked to international databases to verify who is wearing a given watch, while real-time cross checking against sales data. It is believed that this new AFT (Anti-Flip-Technology) will be operational in beta rollout by August 2022. It is rumored that Rolex is currently ironing out false positives in which wife’s or family members could occasionally wear a given watch. Both my AD intelligence contact and spy in Geneva advise that a solution is being found to this final dilemma before launching.

The recent removal of buyer names on the latest warranty cards was designed as a decoy to introduce a false sense of flipper security so as to catch as many unruly flippers as possible with the new AFT (unconfirmed acronym which my contact says could change) technology.

My AD told me it was S.H.I.E.L.D, S.W.O.R.D and the Avengers as consultants.
noshake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 06:44 AM   #23
fabR
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: usa
Posts: 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by inadeje View Post
The new Rolex building in Geneva is being built under the strictest secrecy, several ADs have told me in private that Interpol, the CIA and FBI were all engaged as consultants.

What is lesser known is that this is actually a huge new intelligence department which will use a blend of satellite imagery, CCTV (in those countries where it’s prevalent) and cutting edge biometric facial recognition, all linked to international databases to verify who is wearing a given watch, while real-time cross checking against sales data. It is believed that this new AFT (Anti-Flip-Technology) will be operational in beta rollout by August 2022. It is rumored that Rolex is currently ironing out false positives in which wife’s or family members could occasionally wear a given watch. Both my AD intelligence contact and spy in Geneva advise that a solution is being found to this final dilemma before launching.

The recent removal of buyer names on the latest warranty cards was designed as a decoy to introduce a false sense of flipper security so as to catch as many unruly flippers as possible with the new AFT (unconfirmed acronym which my contact says could change) technology.

wonderful story. love it
fabR is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 06:46 AM   #24
malba2366
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: NY
Posts: 313
Quote:
Originally Posted by vh2k View Post
Zero evidence of this. All the major secondary resellers have said the overwhelming majority of stock comes from private sellers, private collections, and estate sales.

Right...all these BNIB and unworn watches with unmarked warranty cards are coming from private sellers and estates. Of course they will say this because the don't want to throw their sources under the bus should Rolex buy some of these watches and check the serial numbers. The grey dealers are getting the watches from the same place they were before the craziness started...20% of the watches do not get diverted to the grey market by individual sellers.
malba2366 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 06:53 AM   #25
vh2k
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: USA
Posts: 3,018
Quote:
Originally Posted by malba2366 View Post
Right...all these BNIB and unworn watches with unmarked warranty cards are coming from private sellers and estates. Of course they will say this because the don't want to throw their sources under the bus should Rolex buy some of these watches and check the serial numbers. The grey dealers are getting the watches from the same place they were before the craziness started...20% of the watches do not get diverted to the grey market by individual sellers.
On average, 15,000-20,000 new Rolex watches are delivered to customers every single week. No evidence of significant quantities of watches with inactivated or incomplete authentic warranty cards available. One or two posts in a WhatsApp chat or FB group?
vh2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 06:56 AM   #26
hutch300
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Real Name: Jeff
Location: PNW
Posts: 1,482
Rolex knows all.
hutch300 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 07:01 AM   #27
greengold
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: uk
Posts: 496
they sent John Wick after all flippers
greengold is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 07:10 AM   #28
Henrimontgomery
"TRF" Member
 
Henrimontgomery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Switzerland
Watch: yourself
Posts: 1,304
Easy. If you have a blowing hole, smooth grey skin and dark eyes, enjoy salted water, you are Flipper.
Henrimontgomery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 08:09 AM   #29
TheNguyener601
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Nashville
Posts: 21
I doubt AD cares as long as you buy their stuff.
TheNguyener601 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 January 2022, 08:18 AM   #30
Mags01
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: EU
Posts: 225
Quote:
Originally Posted by greengold View Post
they sent John Wick after all flippers
Mags01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Wrist Aficionado

My Watch LLC

WatchesOff5th

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

OCWatches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.