Servicing pre-owned 14060m

[shie6523]

Hi All,

I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a 2012 14060m full set. The watch is in excellent condition and has never been polished. The seller of the watch (grey dealer) is unaware of it ever being RSC serviced.

Given the watch is now 10 years old, would it be worth putting in for a RSC service? The seller has said the watch is keeping time within COSC limits but I'm a little mindful of the waterproofness of the watch i.e. have the gaskets and seals perished in the last 10 years. This watch would be my daily wearer and it's likely I would leave it on for swimming, showers etc.

Any advice is most appreciated.

Thanks,
Darren.

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[ROlesorusLEX]

What a beautiful watch. Looks like someone never wore it.

That being the case, it's not likely to need a service. Showering and swimming would not be likely to cause any trouble whatsoever, from a seal standpoint.

The average person who own these things are not WIS, never service them, and they work fine for decades.

Having said that, a service is cheap peace of mind, especially for a watch you're going to wear for years.

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[woodruffm]

I have the exact same watch from the same year, I bought mine pre-owned in 2020 and I'm yet to service it as it runs absolutely fine. I do understand your reservations in regards to the gaskets, I have taken mine in a pool but probably wouldn't want to push it any further than that without it having new gaskets.

The watch looks to be in really great shape, apart from the fitment of the 12 o'clock end link, I'm not sure why it appears to be so loose. I know these aren't SELs but mine are rock solid against the case and that fit would bother me on such a new 14060m.

[woodruffm]

[Sandpit]

I have a 2010 Sub Date, also never serviced.

All I would do to this is have the seals / gaskets checked and run a pressure test. Your service centre or a well known watchmaker can do this for very little money.

[shie6523]

Might be just the shadow from the bezel possibly?


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[mountainjogger]

Great looking watch. Contemplating the same purchase.

I would take to a local that I trusted. If the seller was not a premier top tier seller, I would have the local photograph the movement for me as well as inside the casebook. Trust but verify.

If the insides check out, I would have them check gaskets and seals and pressure test.

[bullies]

Originally Posted by Sandpit

I have a 2010 Sub Date, also never serviced.

All I would do to this is have the seals / gaskets checked and run a pressure test. Your service centre or a well known watchmaker can do this for very little money.

x2
I've put my M serial 16610 through it all for over a decade.
Get a pressure test done and monitor the time keeping.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it

[illiguy]

Originally Posted by shie6523

Hi All,

I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a 2012 14060m full set. The watch is in excellent condition and has never been polished. The seller of the watch (grey dealer) is unaware of it ever being RSC serviced.

Given the watch is now 10 years old, would it be worth putting in for a RSC service? The seller has said the watch is keeping time within COSC limits but I'm a little mindful of the waterproofness of the watch i.e. have the gaskets and seals perished in the last 10 years. This watch would be my daily wearer and it's likely I would leave it on for swimming, showers etc.

Any advice is most appreciated.

Thanks,
Darren.

Hey Darren, the 2012 14060M is a cracker of a watch. One of my all-time favorites, as a late-model COSC right before discontinuation. The “last of the best”. To remove agita, I’d recommend getting it movement only serviced. Preserve the scratches and wear, as you’ll just add them back, anyways. It’s a tool watch and the marks arguably make it look even nicer.

The movement only service will ensure accuracy and, moreover, fit you with new gaskets, etc. to ensure it’s ready for whatever you throw at it, including water.

Cheers.

[shie6523]

Originally Posted by woodruffm

I have the exact same watch from the same year, I bought mine pre-owned in 2020 and I'm yet to service it as it runs absolutely fine. I do understand your reservations in regards to the gaskets, I have taken mine in a pool but probably wouldn't want to push it any further than that without it having new gaskets.

The watch looks to be in really great shape, apart from the fitment of the 12 o'clock end link, I'm not sure why it appears to be so loose. I know these aren't SELs but mine are rock solid against the case and that fit would bother me on such a new 14060m.

Lovely watch.

Is it comfortable to wear? I have a 124270 as a daily which is super comfortable however I do miss having a diver, I just think they look better than the Explorer. And before you ask, I can't afford to have both!

[fsprow]

When a non-quartz watch that I own reaches the 10 year point, it goes in for factory service. Sometimes that may not be needed but it may be preventing a serious problem from happening. At least that’s what I think.

[majidessa]

Take your watch to a competent watch maker and let him test the watch with a Timegrapher and check its amplitude, beat rate and error. Then let him do a pressure test. You can also check its power reserve by fully winding the watch and calculate how much time it took before it stopped ticking.

If all is good then there is no need to service the watch

[WBaileyii]

I'd service it just for the peace of mind. It's a great watch, no sense it risking it when you can have it serviced and certified (and warrantied) ready for anything.

[csaltphoto]

At a minimum I would have it pressure checked. A few years back I got my 14060M and it was about 10 years old at that point. Had it pressure tested and it was fine with regards to water resistance but YMMV.

It was running about +10s/day though. Took it to a watchmaker and amplitude was low yada. Upon examination the lubrication had dried up. I opted for a movement service only (the watch was basically unworn).

[dummykid]

will it get Parachrom Bleu Hairspring upgraded when you send it to RSC for full service?

[You]

Looks great, should atleast get it pressure tested.

[Fabrice M]

Great looking watch. Seals do dry overtime, if you swim or dive, getting new one isn’t a bad idea… as far as a full service, the watch doesn’t look like it has been worn I wouldn’t bother with the service.

[illiguy]

Originally Posted by dummykid

will it get Parachrom Bleu Hairspring upgraded when you send it to RSC for full service?

If it’s a 2012 14060M, it probably already has it

[eijiboy]

send it to indi shop that has parts account and be done with it. better to start new with fresh polish and refreshed movement. will cost you upward of $700 especially if you asked to polish.

[LFFL]

How much does a pressure test typically cost along with seal/gasket replacement?

[Gab27]

What a beautiful specimen.

I wear my watch in the water frequently, and I would personally just get the movement overhauled so you know you have a watch with water resistance. I would do the full overhaul as opposed to just seals simply because I am sending it in and, if it is 10 years since its last service, I would just get it done so I don't have to part with the watch a second time a few years later, as it will take a while to do through RSC. Even though it looks like it wasn't worn, I assume over 10 years the oils have likely still degraded and a new mainspring won't hurt. Just my opinion.

[RFC]

I had Phillip Ridley in Arizona service my 2007 14060M a few months after I bought it in the secondary market. It was running at 4-6 s/day before service so it might have needed lubrication. Have it shipped directly from the dealer to a CW21 watchmaker like Ridley who can inspect the watch for a small fee within the dealer’s return period. If there’s something off you should be able to return it and get your money back. You could also have it serviced by the independent watchmaker or RSC but with Rolex it will take longer. A full service runs about $900.

[prw]

I have a 14060 I bought in 1998. Serviced twice but only because I used to do a lot of scuba. I think the rubber seal around the crown is the only thing I'd worry about. Now that I only snorkel and hang in pools, I'll do it even less often.