Interesting Architecture....

[Blansky]

I remember back in the early 1980 when walking though the West Edmonton Mall and thinking that humans really could live in an indoor artificial environment on the moon or polluted planet. Possibly not someone who had experienced todays Earth but someone born into that reality.

It had the obvious array of hundreds of stores, theaters, restaurants etc but also had a mini disneyland, a massive beach and "ocean" that had waves to surf on, mini-subs to explore an underwater environment, a hockey rink (of course) and a lot of other features. https://www.wem.ca/

Anyways here's an interesting futuristic idea:

https://newatlas.com/architecture/du...ace/#gallery:1

[asloper6001]

Blade Runner

[AzPaul]

Not an entirely new concept

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by asloper6001

Blade Runner

Jetsons?

But I think Blade Runner or Fifth Element would be closer to the reality.

[asloper6001]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Jetsons?

But I think Blade Runner or Fifth Element would be closer to the reality.

If you like cyberpunk-type stuff - check out Altered Carbon on Netflix. Season 1 is really good, Season 2 crap. 1st season is definitely worth watching though if you haven't seen it.

[RyanJ]

It is fun to think about. If you think about how massive and dangerous space is and how minuscule Earth really is in the grand scheme of things, we are already living in some little "Earth bubble" being protected by magnetic fields, ozone etc...

[Boopie]

Kind of like Las Vegas, the network of casinos, and the windowless Caesar’s Palace Forum Shops. You can be indoors in Vegas for days and not really notice. The shops have a painted sky on the ceiling. It’s all designed to keep you inside and gamble without regard to time.

[enjoythemusic]

We were supposed to already be there by now.

But, you know, silly humans and their 'conflicts' that waste time, obliterating good resources, and talent. When i watch the live ISS feed, i don't see countries, religions, ideologies....

i see a planet of living creatures, and yes ill-conceived 'economies' based on consumption instead of enhancement, exploration, and pushing humans' creation and abilities further towards the 'limits' of what is possible.

Ah well, perhaps the other planets with living entities are smarter than those living on what we choose to call planet Earth.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

We were supposed to already be there by now.

But, you know, silly humans and their 'conflicts' that waste time, obliterating good resources, and talent. When i watch the live ISS feed, i don't see countries, religions, ideologies....

i see a planet of living creatures, and yes ill-conceived 'economies' based on consumption instead of enhancement, exploration, and pushing humans' creation and abilities further towards the 'limits' of what is possible.

Ah well, perhaps the other planets with living entities are smarter than those living on what we choose to call planet Earth.

So true.

[binArt]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

We were supposed to already be there by now.

But, you know, silly humans and their 'conflicts' that waste time, obliterating good resources, and talent. When i watch the live ISS feed, i don't see countries, religions, ideologies....

i see a planet of living creatures, and yes ill-conceived 'economies' based on consumption instead of enhancement, exploration, and pushing humans' creation and abilities further towards the 'limits' of what is possible.

Ah well, perhaps the other planets with living entities are smarter than those living on what we choose to call planet Earth.

Consumption is the ultimate expression of human creativity. A million years ago humans walked on the dirt. Today humans use the fruits of many millennia of creativity to transform the dirt into a myriad of products to be enjoyed by the masses.

Hold a simple glass water tumbler in your hand and you will be amazed by the technology that transformed a handful of sand into a vessel to wet your thirst. Technology is creativity, and consumption drives technology.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by binArt

Consumption is the ultimate expression of human creativity. A million years ago humans walked on the dirt. Today humans use the fruits of many millennia of creativity to transform the dirt into a myriad of products to be enjoyed by the masses.

Hold a simple glass water tumbler in your hand and you will be amazed by the technology that transformed a handful of sand into a vessel to wet your thirst. Technology is creativity, and consumption drives technology.

Yes but like all aspects of the human condition, moderation seems like a virtue as Aristotle expressed. The fine line of virtue vs vice.

Then the early Christian teaching of the 7 Deadly Sins. Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy and Pride.

Over consumption falls into these categories. Over consumption is what happens when an ecosystem can no longer sustain the use of its resources

[binArt]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Yes but like all aspects of the human condition, moderation seems like a virtue as Aristotle expressed. The fine line of virtue vs vice.

Then the early Christian teaching of the 7 Deadly Sins. Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy and Pride.

Over consumption falls into these categories.

Ironic that this notion is presented by active participants of a forum that is a celebration of over consumption.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by binArt

Ironic that this notion is presented by active participants of a forum that is a celebration of over consumption.

It is. Irony is fun.

Or the statement that there are enough resources for everyone's need but not for everyone's greed.

Perhaps we all need a wake up call now and again. Maybe an alarm watch???

[binArt]

Originally Posted by Blansky

It is. Irony is fun.

Or the statement that there are enough resources for everyone's need but not for everyone's greed.

Perhaps we all need a wake up call now and again. Maybe an alarm watch???

As long as we are waxing philosophic... In the end, all things are the construct of their elements. Which, outside the rare occasion of a supernova, are forever as they are now. It is only arranging them in the correct order that stands in the way of endless resources to accommodate endless greed.

Over consumption is not the evil. Under recycling is the evil. Most of what is in the landfill could have been repurposed in some way if there was a cost effective method. Finding the cost effective method to eliminating discarded resources is the path to the promised land.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by binArt

As long as we are waxing philosophic... In the end, all things are the construct of their elements. Which, outside the rare occasion of a supernova, are forever as they are now. It is only arranging them in the correct order that stands in the way of endless resources to accommodate endless greed.

Over consumption is not the evil. Under recycling is the evil. Most of what is in the landfill could have been repurposed in some way if there was a cost effective method. Finding the cost effective method to eliminating discarded resources is the path to the promised land.

I agree with part of that about recycling, but the problem with over consumption is that it not only changes the environment but it also changes the individual.

The search/craving/need for "stuff" warps people. It becomes a treadmill they can't get off. Often times it takes a tragic event for an eye opening epiphany to transform someone.

Because the thing with greed is that enough is never enough.

Again, the moderation thing comes in play.

[binArt]

Originally Posted by Blansky

I agree with part of that about recycling, but the problem with over consumption is that it not only changes the environment but it also changes the individual.

The search/craving/need for "stuff" warps people. It becomes a treadmill they can't get off. Often times it takes a tragic event for an eye opening epiphany to transform someone.

Because the thing with greed is that enough is never enough.

Again, the moderation thing comes in play.

I would contend that the individual who over consumes was always prone to do so. Given the means, not all people over consume.