Did AP just retire the silver/white 15550 Royal Oak?

[tcpx]

This Royal Oak was originally 15550ST.OO.1356ST.01 for the 50 anniversary (with the 50th rotor), but the new reference post 50 anniversary is now reference 15550ST.OO.1356ST.05
(https://www.audemarspiguet.com/com/e...1356ST.05.html)

All of the other dial variants in the 15550ST range are available when you visit the site and look at either “All watches” or the “Royal Oak collection” with the exception of the silver dial. And when you go to the page for the current reference linked above, it’s the only 15550 reference that doesn’t have a price on the page.

Did AP stealthily retire the silver dial for 37mm steel? If so, that’s a really short run for that model as it just came out in January last year (~11 months)

[GB-man]

Tell me you have this watch without telling me you have this watch!

[tcpx]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Tell me you have this watch without telling me you have this watch!

GASP

[robertengel]

Interesting, that being said 15500 is still there and that is out of production for sure, so it has the potential to be something but could just be a website error which I think is more likely.

Note that many current references have been moved to the legacy section if they contained the 50th anniversary in their description, and have been replaced with a version that is identical but without that reference. Could be that they moved the 50th anniversary one and forgot to include the new one.

[Auric Goldfinger]

Yes, the 15550 silver dial is no longer available. I actually chatted with my SA about it at the AP boutique this past weekend and she verified directly. I was surprised to see no one started a thread about it then.

I was shocked myself because of the short production run.

[tcpx]

Originally Posted by robertengel

Interesting, that being said 15500 is still there and that is out of production for sure, so it has the potential to be something but could just be a website error which I think is more likely.

Note that many current references have been moved to the legacy section if they contained the 50th anniversary in their description, and have been replaced with a version that is identical but without that reference. Could be that they moved the 50th anniversary one and forgot to include the new one.

You're right, it is very odd that the 15500 is still in the catalogue and we haven't seen any more incomings for this reference (which makes sense as 15510 now is the de facto 41mm RO)

Originally Posted by Auric Goldfinger

Yes, the 15550 silver dial is no longer available. I actually chatted with my SA about it at the AP boutique this past weekend and she verified directly. I was surprised to see no one started a thread about it then.

I was shocked myself because of the short production run.

Thanks for the info/confirmation from your SA and boutique as well.. I'm just equally as surprised too due to the very short run and also because AP normally keeps around ~4 colors available for their standard 3 hander Royal Oaks (which leaves only 3 colors right now for the 37mm). Maybe a green or black dial is on the pipeline for the 15550ST line?

[macrowatch]

FWIW, historically it seems like the white dial is the most likely to go in and out of the line with very little run periods.

Eg on 41mm 15500 white wasn’t there at launch and added a few years later. For 41mm PQ white was the first to leave while blue stayed.

[CactusTreeFiddy]

The 15500 is definitely an anomaly in this regard

Its probably the worst core royal oak model they've ever released, the 15510 is basically an admission that it was a mistake

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

The 15500 is definitely an anomaly in this regard

Its probably the worst core royal oak model they've ever released, the 15510 is basically an admission that it was a mistake

Nonsense, with all due respect. The right-sized movement was clearly a big step forward from the 15400, and the 2022 transition was part of the design language unification/update across all non-Jumbo ROs and ROCs.

[LUDA]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

The 15500 is definitely an anomaly in this regard

Its probably the worst core royal oak model they've ever released, the 15510 is basically an admission that it was a mistake

The 15510 only happened because all the RO were moving into the new design language, without the AP and only with Audemars Piguet on the dial. Otherwise we would have been for another 3 or 4 years easily without changes.

Many of us prefer the 15500 with the AP logo.

[GW44]

Originally Posted by LUDA

The 15510 only happened because all the RO were moving into the new design language, without the AP and only with Audemars Piguet on the dial. Otherwise we would have been for another 3 or 4 years easily without changes.

Many of us prefer the 15500 with the AP logo.

Whilst I have a beautiful 15500 Blue dial I’d happily add a 15510 in any configuration too. They are both gorgeous 3 handers and an awesome addition to any AP collection.

[CactusTreeFiddy]

The reference, 15510, is literally a patch on top of the bad proportions of the 15500, which everyone agreed had a rather bald dial with no text. The 15510 is exactly what the 15500 should have been in the first place

[HMHM]

These days, people are more interested in whether the watch is discontinued than the virtue of the watch itself.
Also, people are not allowed to have different preference because only their perception is right and others are just people with horrible terrible trashy taste :)

[GW44]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

The 15500 is definitely an anomaly in this regard

Its probably the worst core royal oak model they've ever released, the 15510 is basically an admission that it was a mistake

What utter nonsense

[GW44]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

The reference, 15510, is literally a patch on top of the bad proportions of the 15500, which everyone agreed had a rather bald dial with no text. The 15510 is exactly what the 15500 should have been in the first place

Have a day off will you..

[DonLee]

This will be somewhat of a surprise. The least loved color dial becomes the rarest dial, and surely that will affect grey market prices

[CactusTreeFiddy]

Originally Posted by GW44

Have a day off will you..

Response with no substance at all, says a lot...

[AEV]

Indeed, the 50th version is in the legacy and in the current collection the silver dial on the 15550 is available only for the two tone model.
I personally love that dial and I am happy to have it on the 15510.

[CactusTreeFiddy]

Originally Posted by AEV

Indeed, the 50th version is in the legacy and in the current collection the silver dial on the 15550 is available only for the two tone model.
I personally love that dial and I am happy to have it on the 15510.

Agreed, the silver dial is seriously underrated

[leisen]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

The 15500 is definitely an anomaly in this regard

Its probably the worst core royal oak model they've ever released, the 15510 is basically an admission that it was a mistake

I don't want to argue but I totally agree.

[LUDA]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

The reference, 15510, is literally a patch on top of the bad proportions of the 15500, which everyone agreed had a rather bald dial with no text. The 15510 is exactly what the 15500 should have been in the first place

Bald dial with no text is fixed with a dial with even less. Right.

[tcpx]

Purely preference from my side obviously, but the design element that makes the 15510 more visually appealing to me than the 15500 are the longer indexes (they were too short in the 15500)

[CactusTreeFiddy]

Originally Posted by LUDA

Bald dial with no text is fixed with a dial with even less. Right.

I mean, you're just categorically wrong if you think the 15510 has less furniture

Compare them sxs and you'll instantly see how much more presence the indices on the 15510 has

[CactusTreeFiddy]

Originally Posted by tcpx

Purely preference from my side obviously, but the design element that makes the 15510 more visually appealing to me than the 15500 are the longer indexes (they were too short in the 15500)

There's plenty of sentiment on RF agreeing with you

Think the people biting back just happen to be 15500 owners that's all

[AperolSpritz]

Originally Posted by DonLee

This will be somewhat of a surprise. The least loved color dial becomes the rarest dial, and surely that will affect grey market prices

who cares about grey market prices anymore?

there is no more grey market... the market is broken and everyone knows it.

[Vince_76]

Originally Posted by AperolSpritz

who cares about grey market prices anymore?

there is no more grey market... the market is broken and everyone knows it.

+1. Bid ask spread is so wide

[cornsyrup_bezel]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

There's plenty of sentiment on RF agreeing with you

Think the people biting back just happen to be 15500 owners that's all

wow love your hate! and since one person on the internet said it it must be true.

my opinion is that both models are great. whatever you acquire to enjoy the model line is a win. I'm partial to the white dial but also like the others. Wish we could go back to a time when AP didn't use ROs as a way to move codes and offshores.

[CactusTreeFiddy]

Originally Posted by cornsyrup_bezel

wow love your hate! and since one person on the internet said it it must be true.

my opinion is that both models are great. whatever you acquire to enjoy the model line is a win. I'm partial to the white dial but also like the others. Wish we could go back to a time when AP didn't use ROs as a way to move codes and offshores.

Eh I'm not mad at all I get why others would take things like this personally though

Agree on the second part however, would love to see a winner outside the RO. Hoping to see a smaller ROO this year

[In-N-Out]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

Eh I'm not mad at all I get why others would take things like this personally though

Agree on the second part however, would love to see a winner outside the RO. Hoping to see a smaller ROO this year

Lol entertaining thread. But I agree the 15510 is an improvement on the 15500 in almost every single way when it comes to the dial. I wish AP put the “automatic” there though for both references

I do NOT like the newer, lighter bracelet on the 15510 though. i wouldn’t say it’s flimsy, but it feels more delicate than the 15500 bracelet

[Vivalas]

I love both