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Old 7 March 2023, 09:46 PM   #1
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Rolex 5513 gilt dial

Hi fellas,
I have the option to purchase a rolex 5513 gilt dial, series number 123XXXX,
And have some doubts about the dial and their letters. Any help would be great to finally take a decision.
Many thanks a in advance
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Old 8 March 2023, 06:19 AM   #2
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Do you have any more (and better) images of the dial and watch?
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Old 8 March 2023, 08:10 AM   #3
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Do you have any more (and better) images of the dial and watch?
is it really necessary ?
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Old 8 March 2023, 08:21 AM   #4
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OP,

Have you compared this dial to other gilt dials of similar era, etc?

its pretty obvious.
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Old 8 March 2023, 09:53 AM   #5
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According to C. White’s Vintage Rolex Field Manual at page 45 a marking T Swiss T without a hashtag corresponds to early 63’ tritium dials. OP’s dial has a hashtag which MAY not match with his stated case serial number.
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Old 8 March 2023, 11:54 AM   #6
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My 1.28M serial number 5513. Relumed, but gilt lettering is all original.

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Old 8 March 2023, 04:48 PM   #7
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According to C. White’s Vintage Rolex Field Manual at page 45 a marking T Swiss T without a hashtag corresponds to early 63’ tritium dials. OP’s dial has a hashtag which MAY not match with his stated case serial number.
never seen any gilt submariner dial with "T SWISS T" from 1963 ...
But useless for OP, his dial is a poor fake unfortunately...
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Old 8 March 2023, 08:43 PM   #8
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The grafia of the letters is just curious, sorry for my English.
Check W from Swiss, just to put an example, never saw any W like this one.
Submariner letters are very weird as well, from my knowledge and after checking with others vintage experts they have concluded is a fake dial.
Glad I didn’t pull the trigger
Also note letter R from Submariner, very rare as well, didn’t saw any other like this one.
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Old 8 March 2023, 09:08 PM   #9
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Finally according to it’s series number it should be around 66??
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Old 8 March 2023, 09:55 PM   #10
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Finally according to it’s series number it should be around 66??
Yes
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Old 9 March 2023, 12:24 AM   #11
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It's no good all over OP, sorry.
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Old 9 March 2023, 02:01 PM   #12
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Finally according to it’s series number it should be around 66??

For reference, my 1.28M case back is
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Old 11 March 2023, 01:09 PM   #13
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Same here, this serial number is not for a 1963 5513, it’s more like 65-66. I have a similar watch and as I recall the inside caseback indicated 65-66 timeframe, which should have the hashtag
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Old 17 March 2023, 03:57 AM   #14
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Hi fellas,
I have the option to purchase a rolex 5513 gilt dial, series number 123XXXX,
And have some doubts about the dial and their letters. Any help would be great to finally take a decision.
Many thanks a in advance

Like I told you on Instagram. The opinion here are obviously red light. Hope you didn’t pull the trigger mate


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