Pelagos timekeeping decline/servicing question

[A-Wax]

My Pelagos with the MT5612 movement seems to have taken a precision nosedive - currently running at about -15 spd, down from a reasonable -4 spd earlier this year. Hasn't taken any knocks recently that I can think of, so I'm assuming it's not just a case of needing regulation, though I'd be happy to be told otherwise! I remember hearing a few years back that Pelagos servicing at Rolex actually consists of just swapping the movement for another reconditioned one; is that true/still the case?

[waterman1]

I cannot tell you if this is still how Rolex handles a movement issue. Perhaps RSC will provide some information if you call them.
I feel like movement issues are very uncommon with the Pelagos. I do not recall hearing of a movement issue yet.
Hope they service it quickly for you.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by A-Wax

My Pelagos with the MT5612 movement seems to have taken a precision nosedive - currently running at about -15 spd, down from a reasonable -4 spd earlier this year. Hasn't taken any knocks recently that I can think of, so I'm assuming it's not just a case of needing regulation, though I'd be happy to be told otherwise! I remember hearing a few years back that Pelagos servicing at Rolex actually consists of just swapping the movement for another reconditioned one; is that true/still the case?

Well depending if worn regular and mainspring is kept at peak power then it most probably simple regulation.But remember there are 86400 seconds in a day so even 15 seconds slow is not the end of the world.And even if they did swap the movement which is doubtful unless there is a real bad fault, again not the end of the world.

[A-Wax]

Originally Posted by padi56

Well depending if worn regular and mainspring is kept at peak power then it most probably simple regulation.But remember there are 86400 seconds in a day so even 15 seconds slow is not the end of the world.And even if they did swap the movement which is doubtful unless there is a real bad fault, again not the end of the world.

Agreed, definitely not the end of the world if they did swap the movement, was just interested to know what the situation was as I've heard varying reports!

[A-Wax]

Originally Posted by waterman1

I cannot tell you if this is still how Rolex handles a movement issue. Perhaps RSC will provide some information if you call them.
I feel like movement issues are very uncommon with the Pelagos. I do not recall hearing of a movement issue yet.
Hope they service it quickly for you.

Hopefully nothing major - or at least, quickly fixable if so!
Actually, re: RSC, the local AD I bought it from is listed as a "Rolex Service Centre" on the Rolex site - does that make them functionally equivalent to Rolex St.James etc? I was planning to take it to the AD for an initial look anyway so if I can sensibly avoid shipping/a trip to London then that's a bonus!

[travisb]

I hadn't heard of swapping out the movement for the Pelagos or any main issues with that reference. I wouldn't be too concerned but easily fixed if need be.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by travisb

I hadn't heard of swapping out the movement for the Pelagos or any main issues with that reference. I wouldn't be too concerned but easily fixed if need be.

X2,

[Driver8]

All Tudor in-house movements are swapped out at service for a reconditioned one from someone else's watch.

This was definitely the case as at a year ago when I specifically asked a Tudor rep at a Tudor event I attended at my AD, so unless something has changed it's safe to assume that's still the case.

[Tim Plains]

Originally Posted by Driver8

All Tudor in-house movements are swapped out at service for a reconditioned one from someone else's watch.

It's interesting that Tudor does this. I wonder if it results in rapid turnaround times.

[THC]

But how do you pronounce Pelagos?

[SublimeZ06]

Originally Posted by Driver8

All Tudor in-house movements are swapped out at service for a reconditioned one from someone else's watch.

This was definitely the case as at a year ago when I specifically asked a Tudor rep at a Tudor event I attended at my AD, so unless something has changed it's safe to assume that's still the case.

That's concerning if true.... I wasn't expecting that from Tudor. You typically hear of this from the cheaper brands with the throwaway movements that are replaced rather than serviced.

[CKLinLA]

Is there not a period of time (from purchase or last service date) where the watch time keeping is warrant to be within the "chronometer officially certified" accuracy standards?

Minus 15 sec per day would fall outside of that.

[MikeyV]

Originally Posted by padi56

Well depending if worn regular and mainspring is kept at peak power then it most probably simple regulation.But remember there are 86400 seconds in a day so even 15 seconds slow is not the end of the world.And even if they did swap the movement which is doubtful unless there is a real bad fault, again not the end of the world.

Padi, you know that if a watch goes from -4 spd (bad enough to start with) to -15 spd that something is wrong.

You also know that RSC serviced Tudors with the MT movements get swapped.

Why do you always play dumb?

Real world info: I just had my Pelagos serviced (rotor fell off - wouldn't self wind) and it took3 months - parts (the whole movement I assume) had to come from Geneva. They replaced the Crown and gasket just because, and they polished a small scratch out of the crystal.

It ran ad -3 spd (super consistent) for 4 years before, and now runs at +1 to +2 spd.

I'm happy.

[geoach]

Originally Posted by Driver8

All Tudor in-house movements are swapped out at service for a reconditioned one from someone else's watch.

This was definitely the case as at a year ago when I specifically asked a Tudor rep at a Tudor event I attended at my AD, so unless something has changed it's safe to assume that's still the case.

that's why if I ever got a Tudor I would get an older ref with the work horse eta which are not swapped out

[1William]

I am a huge Tudor fan and a Pelagos owner x5. I have never had an issue but one is pending if I keep the watches long enough. The swapping the movements out is a common industry practice and it is just about economics and work force. Depending on the severity of the problem it is more economical for companies to do the swap than to have a tech work on the watch for hours or days. No issue for me as long as it all works out in the end.

[DJ2020]

I would assume that there is no COSC certificate that accompany's the watch when new. As the serial number of the movement is printed on the certificate.

I would prefer that a watch that I plan to keep for life stays all original to include the movement. Like Rolex and Omega. Non COSC movements I could care less if the movement is changed.

On the up side of a movement swap, if you got a lemon, you may get a good on the next time.

[andic]

They do swap the movements, I had mine serviced earlier this year - it was also losing time similar to OP.

Maybe it is to reduce the time spent on each unit, or maybe reduces the training required for the service technicians?

[deskdiverdom]

Originally Posted by THC

But how do you pronounce Pelagos?

Pelagos