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Old 29 April 2024, 12:51 PM   #1
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What happened to the discussions / threads about falling prices?

Is TRF not allowing discussions on falling prices anymore?

I think price trends is a great discussion to have for serious collectors who are spending serious money on their hobby...
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Old 29 April 2024, 01:11 PM   #2
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Prices went up.
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Old 29 April 2024, 01:41 PM   #3
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Old 29 April 2024, 05:14 PM   #4
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This thread?

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=862189

It got shut down. Turned into a tape measure session, LOL. And lots of bickering.
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Old 30 April 2024, 01:55 AM   #5
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What happened to the discussions / threads about falling prices?

No news anymore. Watch market is declining around the globe
Figures of March MoM 2024 Swiss watch exports show a significant downfall, especially in China and Hong Kong.
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Old 30 April 2024, 02:23 AM   #6
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Prices went up.

And then went down...




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Old 30 April 2024, 02:42 AM   #7
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Prices went up.
Your FS threads with endless bumps beg to differ.
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Old 30 April 2024, 06:50 AM   #8
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I guess greys support this place, so…
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Old 30 April 2024, 10:14 AM   #9
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I think that when prices first started going down, there were some. people in denial. Which created conflict.
No there is no denying it, it's just a matter of how much, is it going to go down further, which models are most affected.

The increase and decrease in values were not consistent across the board.
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Old 30 April 2024, 01:34 PM   #10
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I guess greys support this place, so…
This is literally it. Just look at the bottom of the website. “You want to know who’s in power, ask who you can you not criticize?”
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Old 30 April 2024, 01:47 PM   #11
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Is TRF not allowing discussions on falling prices anymore?

I think price trends is a great discussion to have for serious collectors who are spending serious money on their hobby...
One was open for almost 2 years and ran 172 pages. It was obviously closed because of all the petty bickering and incivility. Another one, linked above in post #3, is still open. Feel free to go ahead and start another if you want.
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Old 30 April 2024, 01:48 PM   #12
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This is literally it. Just look at the bottom of the website. “You want to know who’s in power, ask who you can you not criticize?”
Not true.
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Old 30 April 2024, 03:05 PM   #13
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Not true.
It was crazy at first. People were silenced from talking about prices when there wasn’t the WatchOut subforum…

At least we have this now but optically and chronologically it’s an interesting series of events.
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Old 30 April 2024, 03:34 PM   #14
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It was crazy at first. People were silenced from talking about prices when there wasn’t the WatchOut subforum…

At least we have this now but optically and chronologically it’s an interesting series of events.
A couple of years ago there were so many pricing threads that quite a few members were frequently complaining and reporting them, so they got either locked or merged into one thread, which was shifted to the WatchOut section. Dealing with those reports was also creating extra work for mods, who give up their free time to try and keep this place friendly and organized for no money or any other incentives.

So if people occasionally accuse us of being somehow in the pockets of trusted sellers, greys or whatever, or make similar suggestions, that doesn't go down well.

The money to keep TRF running comes from Pledge Members. I don't know how much those ads at the bottom of the page cost, but the payment only buys ad space, not favours.
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Old 30 April 2024, 08:39 PM   #15
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Your FS threads with endless bumps beg to differ.
Ouuuch……
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Old 30 April 2024, 11:15 PM   #16
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A couple of years ago there were so many pricing threads that quite a few members were frequently complaining and reporting them, so they got either locked or merged into one thread, which was shifted to the WatchOut section. Dealing with those reports was also creating extra work for mods, who give up their free time to try and keep this place friendly and organized for no money or any other incentives.

So if people occasionally accuse us of being somehow in the pockets of trusted sellers, greys or whatever, or make similar suggestions, that doesn't go down well.

The money to keep TRF running comes from Pledge Members. I don't know how much those ads at the bottom of the page cost, but the payment only buys ad space, not favours.
Well said and thank you and all the Mods and Steve for TRF.
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Old 1 May 2024, 04:27 AM   #17
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When the current market conditions become so apparent, there is not much need for discussion anymore ��
The market is falling and anyone who says otherwise definitely has vested interest in watch prices.
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hey, we don't need no stinkin' discussion thread about no stinkin' falling prices. all we need is this guy:

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Old 2 May 2024, 08:02 AM   #20
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And then went down...




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I think I'm too stupid to read this graph. what does this graph say? if it's YoY sales (of grey market) then it means the market is decelerating but still seeing tremendous YoY growth at 40% for PP and AP. that doesn't sound correct compared to the other chart above that shows the industry is down across all regions in the world



Edit: actually I guess it's using jan 2021 as the comp price....makes sense. CAGR of +12% from 2021 vs 2024 is still crazy. hopefully it slows down though so we can get our watches from ADs and boutiques
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Generally, price on secondary market grew over time, peaked in Spring of 2022, and then has been dropping ever since.


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Old 2 May 2024, 08:28 AM   #22
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I think that when prices first started going down, there were some. people in denial. Which created conflict.
No there is no denying it, it's just a matter of how much, is it going to go down further, which models are most affected.

The increase and decrease in values were not consistent across the board.
Any watch brand, prices should go down.. they are not an investment or should be considered one.
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Old 3 May 2024, 01:13 AM   #23
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Any watch brand, prices should go down.. they are not an investment or should be considered one.
I mostly agree, except for vintage pieces in limited supply.
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Old 30 May 2024, 02:02 PM   #24
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Any watch brand, prices should go down.. they are not an investment or should be considered one.

It doesn’t sound like you have an understanding of high end watches. There are many watches that could be treated like an investment. Guys buying stainless subs as an investment or constantly worrying about stainless Rolex prices is strange. But if you’re buying and holding vintage patek or vintage Rolex, the prices will not go down over long periods of time.


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Old 31 May 2024, 08:21 AM   #25
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It doesn’t sound like you have an understanding of high end watches. There are many watches that could be treated like an investment. Guys buying stainless subs as an investment or constantly worrying about stainless Rolex prices is strange. But if you’re buying and holding vintage patek or vintage Rolex, the prices will not go down over long periods of time.


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Exactly……or newer rare and desirable pieces
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