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Old 4 August 2024, 02:58 PM   #1
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Vacheron 222

I maybe getting the historique 222 in yellow gold which Vacheron launched in 2022 soon from my AD after 2 years of wait. I tried t one time 2 years back and liked it... did not feel very much in your face, and the design is classic.

any feedback from any owner or someone who saw it/tried it or any expert here? that would help for sure.

as i said, i am buying from an AD, so i would be paying retail.

thanks in advance.
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Old 4 August 2024, 05:26 PM   #2
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I’d personally go used and get a 20% plus discount over RRP
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Old 4 August 2024, 08:03 PM   #3
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i have not seen anywhere 20% discount....

on this model, brand new...
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Old 4 August 2024, 08:44 PM   #4
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Absolutely beautiful watch! I was offered the 222 by my boutique right before the price increase but passed. Still kicking myself till this day. However, I’m at a different point in my life now with other priorities so in retrospect was the right decision.

Go for it!
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Old 4 August 2024, 10:16 PM   #5
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Old 4 August 2024, 10:28 PM   #6
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Great watch.
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Old 4 August 2024, 10:30 PM   #7
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on this model, brand new...
And you won’t even used.
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Old 4 August 2024, 11:32 PM   #8
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this is my understanding...

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And you won’t even used.


secondary and primary pricing are not very far...
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Old 5 August 2024, 12:53 AM   #9
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I’d personally go used and get a 20% plus discount over RRP

Where are you seeing this? I’d already own one myself if that was the case


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Old 5 August 2024, 12:54 AM   #10
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Spectacular piece and on my wishlist. Go for it


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Old 5 August 2024, 01:14 AM   #11
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Bracelet is spectacular
Very classy watch
I was surprised but decided overseas was a better fit for my style


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Old 5 August 2024, 01:24 AM   #12
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I'd much rather hunt for an original 222 than getting the remake. More interesting movement and better date placement IMO. So no, I'd pass.
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Old 5 August 2024, 02:56 AM   #13
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I loved mine until my wife commandeered it lol
It’s a terrific piece
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Old 5 August 2024, 03:08 AM   #14
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Old 5 August 2024, 10:19 AM   #15
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US retail is 74k, or the exact equivalent of 58k pounds converted to USD at today’s conversion rates. Is the 222 priced 20% lower vs. US in the UK?


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Congrats on the potential pickup! The Historique 222 is a stunning piece with a timeless design. Paying retail for it is fair, especially given the wait. Enjoy your new watch!
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Old 5 August 2024, 04:53 PM   #17
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US retail is 74k, or the exact equivalent of 58k pounds converted to USD at today’s conversion rates. Is the 222 priced 20% lower vs. US in the UK?


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74k + sales tax?

It's priced at £71k inc vat which equates to circa $90500
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Old 5 August 2024, 05:12 PM   #18
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very strange....

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74k + sales tax?

It's priced at £71k inc vat which equates to circa $90500
retail here is also $74K...

i think something is wrong. i just confirmed with another friend in the UK and retail is 59K pounds only... not sure if he is right...

bottom, light retail price is around 74K most of the world.
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Old 5 August 2024, 05:17 PM   #19
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retail here is also $74K...

i think something is wrong. i just confirmed with another friend in the UK and retail is 59K pounds only... not sure if he is right...

bottom, light retail price is around 74K most of the world.

It’s £71k in England




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74k + sales tax?

It's priced at £71k inc vat which equates to circa $90500

Yeah it’s 74K before tax in the US.


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Old 6 August 2024, 04:50 PM   #21
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I tried it and really didn't like the way it sat on my wrist.
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Old 7 August 2024, 12:39 AM   #22
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I prefer Tissot PRX to 222… plus enough money left to pick up Patek 5811… and a trip to Switzerland

I think 222 is probably the most over hyped/ priced watch out there
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I prefer Tissot PRX to 222… plus enough money left to pick up Patek 5811… and a trip to Switzerland

I think 222 is probably the most over hyped/ priced watch out there
It was the darling of Watches and Wonders when it came out, but has fallen off a cliff subsequently. The VC historiques line seems to me an open admission that VC has no new ideas other than monetizing their backlist. I wish VC did more with their traditionnelle line, which I think spectacular.
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Old 7 August 2024, 06:17 AM   #24
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Mmm. In what sense did the 222 fall off a cliff? Looking at online listings it is much rarer and prices have held much better than a 15202 in a market that saw significant decline in the past 2,5 years.
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The 222 is an incredible timepiece, one of my favourites. Super comfortable with well finished and supple bracelet, well finished movement and lots of heft with all the gold. It's thin and classy, but feels substantial, and has a great story and history. If you are a fan of the RO Jumbo or Nautilus its is very easy to fall in love with this timepiece as well.
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I prefer Tissot PRX to 222… plus enough money left to pick up Patek 5811… and a trip to Switzerland

I think 222 is probably the most over hyped/ priced watch out there
You could buy two 222's for price of 5811 on grey market... still less then the spend required at AD to get one if you wanted. The 222 is a sleeper compared to jumbo/nautilus
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It was the darling of Watches and Wonders when it came out, but has fallen off a cliff subsequently. The VC historiques line seems to me an open admission that VC has no new ideas other than monetizing their backlist. I wish VC did more with their traditionnelle line, which I think spectacular.
Rolex and Patek's catalog is almost entirely based or inspired by their back catalog... Buyers want timepieces with a history and a story behind it.

That being said, the historiques line is low production, most of what they produce is Patrimony, Traditionale, Overseas and Fifty-six. My boutique only gets one or two historique models per year.
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Rolex and Patek's catalog is almost entirely based or inspired by their back catalog... Buyers want timepieces with a history and a story behind it.

That being said, the historiques line is low production, most of what they produce is Patrimony, Traditionale, Overseas and Fifty-six. My boutique only gets one or two historique models per year.

Agree love the Historiques line. Here are my two from the line. Two of my favorite overall watches period. Beautiful 222 by the way! Cheers,





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Agree love the Historiques line. Here are my two from the line. Two of my favorite overall watches period. Beautiful 222 by the way! Cheers,





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Phenomenal


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Agree love the Historiques line. Here are my two from the line. Two of my favorite overall watches period. Beautiful 222 by the way! Cheers,
Very nice pair. Thanks for posting
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