Unusual clasp on a 6635 rivet bracelet, is it original?

[EH86055]

Hi all,

This 6635 bracelet came on a 1962 Tudor 7965. I noticed the coronet is stamped in the body of the clasp, not integrated into the opening tab as on other examples of this bracelet.

The clasp measures 13 by 23 mm and has six micro-adjust holes. Blade is stamped "Patented & Registered / Swiss Made." Last photo shows a usual 6635 clasp. Searching online, I found smaller clasps for 17 mm bracelets with this logo placement, but none for a 19 mm.

What are your thoughts, folks? Not original? Fake, even?

Thanks all.

[springer]

Clasp is genuine. Later ones had the coronet stamped like your example.

[Dan S]

More info in the thread below. What year (if any) is stamped on the blade?

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=859231

[springer]

Originally Posted by springer

Clasp is genuine. Later ones had the coronet stamped like your example.

A quick edit to my post. The clasp posted by the OP is genuine but it is not the later clasp that I was referring to. I should have spent a little more time looking at the OP's clasp.

The later SWISS clasp that I was referring to is depicted below on a SWISS 6251 Jubilee found on a 1972 GMT.

[perry911113]

Originally Posted by EH86055

Hi all,

This 6635 bracelet came on a 1962 Tudor 7965. I noticed the coronet is stamped in the body of the clasp, not integrated into the opening tab as on other examples of this bracelet.

The clasp measures 13 by 23 mm and has six micro-adjust holes. Blade is stamped "Patented & Registered / Swiss Made." Last photo shows a usual 6635 clasp. Searching online, I found smaller clasps for 17 mm bracelets with this logo placement, but none for a 19 mm.

What are your thoughts, folks? Not original? Fake, even?

Thanks all.

Let's see your Tudor 7965.
I love the 7965 so much that I own 2.
They look like a 36mm with the lengthened lug width.
The visual is very good on them.
The 6635 bracelet is a great find.

[perry911113]

Here is the second 7965. Both are 1965 model years.

[TuRo]

Yes I like the model too, v nice.

For newbie Tudor Oyster collectors, these two photos illustrate emphatically that Tudor don't follow the footer convention that Rolex do of :

SWISS MADE pre 52,

SWISS 52 to c 63 and

T SWISS T after 63.

Tudor are all over the place.....

Many 70-80-90s pieces are SWISS footer eg 74000 and 9121/9111/9101, and then there are the peculiar - T SWISS T - and T -SWISS - T versions on the same watch !

[perry911113]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Yes I like the model too, v nice.

For newbie Tudor Oyster collectors, these two photos illustrate emphatically that Tudor don't follow the footer convention that Rolex do of :

SWISS MADE pre 52,

SWISS 52 to c 63 and

T SWISS T after 63.

Tudor are all over the place.....

Many 70-80-90s pieces are SWISS footer eg 74000 and 9121/9111/9101, and then there are the peculiar - T SWISS T - and T -SWISS - T versions on the same watch !

Interesting angle of information.
The silver dial 7965 marked "Swiss" is serial 565XXX
The black dial 7965 marked " T Swiss T" is serial 460XXX
pointing to 1965

This information from a friend who spends an enormous amount of time researching his Rolex collection. This, he says, applies to Rolex.
What are your thoughts?

" Swiss "
luminous material Radium
used until 1960
radioactive

" Swiss T - <25 "
luminous material Tritium
used from 1960 until 1998
radioactive, radioactivity less than 925 MBq (25 MCi)

" T Swiss T "
luminous material Tritium
used from 1960 until 1998
radioactive, radioactivity less than 277 MBq (7,5 MCi)

" Swiss "
luminous material Tritium
used from 1998 until 2000
not radioactive

" Swiss Made "
luminous material Superluminova
used from 2000
not radioactive

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by perry911113

Interesting angle of information.
The silver dial 7965 marked "Swiss" is serial 565XXX
The black dial 7965 marked " T Swiss T" is serial 460XXX
pointing to 1965

This information from a friend who spends an enormous amount of time researching his Rolex collection. This, he says, applies to Rolex.
What are your thoughts?

" Swiss "
luminous material Radium
used until 1960
radioactive

" Swiss T - <25 "
luminous material Tritium
used from 1960 until 1998
radioactive, radioactivity less than 925 MBq (25 MCi)

" T Swiss T "
luminous material Tritium
used from 1960 until 1998
radioactive, radioactivity less than 277 MBq (7,5 MCi)

" Swiss "
luminous material Tritium
used from 1998 until 2000
not radioactive

" Swiss Made "
luminous material Superluminova
used from 2000
not radioactive

That's a reasonable starting point as far as it goes, although the dates could be more precise. People study the transitional period (circa 1960-63) pretty closely, so it's not really that helpful to put "Swiss T - <25" and "T SWISS T" dials into the same huge year range, and to suggest that there was a hard transition between SWISS and those dials.

And there are more subtleties. For example, what does your friend say about "underline," "T SWISS MADE T," and "tritinova" dials?