Ranking the hardest to get Rolexes: Did I get it right?

[Djoker48]

Non-precious metal only

1. Titanium Yachtmaster 42
2. Daytona White
3. Daytona Black
4. Pepsi
5. Skydweller Green
6. Skydweller Blue
7. Sprite
8. OP Celebration Dial
9. Batman / Girl
10. Bruce Wayne
11. Green Submariner
12. Submariner No Date
13. Submariner Date
14. White / Black Skydweller
15. Explorer 2
16. Explorer 1
17. Air King

[TBC123]

OP Celebration dial would be well up the list but good try!

[bibbi]

OP Celebration as #5 and OP Pink as #9.


bibbi

[SLWoodster]

I feel the Skydweller green is harder than Pepsi.

[msum]

Is the Challenge still available?

[Space1970]

I also thought a Green SD would be harder to get than a Pepsi
But with a Pepsi trading 80% over retail and a Green SD around 50% maybe it’s not

[padi56]

Not a but interested in what's harder to get as if you believe what you hear on this forum all Rolex watches are hard to get. But if you have this so called AD relation-ship stuff and spent a zillion at AD then perhaps AD might sell you a watch. But on the grey market most all of these so called hard to get watches are available ay crazy prices.So do these special relationship VIP customers buy then sell to the grey for profit.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by TBC123

OP Celebration dial would be well up the list but good try!

Originally Posted by bibbi

OP Celebration as #5 and OP Pink as #9.


bibbi

Tiffany is just as hard…

Also OP41 or 31 is WAYYYYY easier to get than 36.

Lastly the YachtMaster will probably be under retail in 2 years, so if simply just wait if you wanted one of those lol.

[hojlund]

don't think the submariner date is easier to get than submariner no date.

[Goose 104]

Originally Posted by hojlund

don't think the submariner date is easier to get than submariner no date.

I would say the no date is harder because they make so few of them comparatively.

[Djoker48]

Originally Posted by dmash

Tiffany is just as hard…

Also OP41 or 31 is WAYYYYY easier to get than 36.

Lastly the YachtMaster will probably be under retail in 2 years, so if simply just wait if you wanted one of those lol.

That’s what I thought at first. But after the steep fall, it’s been stable for a few months. Also Rolex is not an idiot. They know to constrain supply for their “halo” pieces for them to continue maintaining their status as “halo” pieces, namely: the white and black Daytona, the Pepsi and the the RLX YM Ti 42

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Djoker48

That’s what I thought at first. But after the steep fall, it’s been stable for a few months. Also Rolex is not an idiot. They know to constrain supply for their “halo” pieces for them to continue maintaining their status as “halo” pieces, namely: the white and black Daytona, the Pepsi and the the RLX YM Ti 42

It doesn’t change the fact that after the ‘newness’ wears off, most people honestly won’t care about the YM. Majority of people like steel over titanium on sports watches, despite the durability factor, as it feels like there’s nothing there. In addition to the YM bezel looking plasticky for most.

I’d venture at well over 90% of people like the aesthetics of a Sub/GMT over a YM.

[Hulkhunter]

I’d say the green sub is harder to get than the new GMT or even the BLNR.

Also, some of the OPs are a lot harder to get than quite a lot of the watches on that list.
OP36 Turquoise,
Celebration, Green

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Hulkhunter

I’d say the green sub is harder to get than the new GMT or even the BLNR.

Strongly disagree and grey market does too. I can buy a green sub for $14k easy today. GMT 17-22k. Not even close actually.

[Hulkhunter]

Originally Posted by dmash

Strongly disagree and grey market does too. I can buy a green sub for $14k easy today. GMT 17-22k. Not even close actually.

I have had/have a lot of the watches on that list from ADs so I’m basing it on experience and what iv heard from a couple of ADs I use.

The grey market pricing doesn’t always correlate. It’s only a couple of thousand over retail for a blue sky dweller now.
The premium for a Ti YM is also less than a black steel daytona and about the same as a Pepsi.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Hulkhunter

I have had/have a lot of the watches on that list from ADs so I’m basing it on experience and what iv heard from a couple of ADs I use.

The grey market pricing doesn’t always correlate. It’s only a couple of thousand over retail for a blue sky dweller now.
The premium for a Ti YM is also less than a black steel daytona and about the same as a Pepsi.

I don’t know anybody other than you who would claim a Starbucks sub is harder to get than a Pepsi GMT. Literally the only person in the world maybe just saying

I can walk into ADs as a first time client and they’ll tell me a couple years for a Starbucks, if that. I can ask for a Pepsi at an AD I’m *established* at and they’ll still tell me 4-5 years (or more). It’s honestly not even close.

Edit- I actually just looked at my emails. I asked for a Pepsi GMT 3 years 1 month ago from my AD. Still yet to get a call.

[Djoker48]

Originally Posted by Hulkhunter

I’d say the green sub is harder to get than the new GMT or even the BLNR.

Also, some of the OPs are a lot harder to get than quite a lot of the watches on that list.
OP36 Turquoise,
Celebration, Green

Heavily disagree but these things will likely vary from AD to AD subjectively

[Hulkhunter]

Originally Posted by dmash

I don’t know anybody other than you who would claim a Starbucks sub is harder to get than a Pepsi GMT. Literally the only person in the world maybe just saying

I can walk into ADs as a first time client and they’ll tell me a couple years for a Starbucks, if that. I can ask for a Pepsi at an AD I’m *established* at and they’ll still tell me 4-5 years (or more). It’s honestly not even close.

The premium for the blue skydweller is about the same as a black sub date despite the fact if you tried to get one from your AD the sky is a much tougher watch to come by.

I could get a YM Ti, on the grey for £20k right now. I would be looking at £24k for a black Steel 12 Daytona. We have said on this list the Ym is harder to get.

[Hulkhunter]

Originally Posted by dmash

I don’t know anybody other than you who would claim a Starbucks sub is harder to get than a Pepsi GMT. Literally the only person in the world maybe just saying

I can walk into ADs as a first time client and they’ll tell me a couple years for a Starbucks, if that. I can ask for a Pepsi at an AD I’m *established* at and they’ll still tell me 4-5 years (or more). It’s honestly not even close.

Edit- I actually just looked at my emails. I asked for a Pepsi GMT 3 years 1 month ago from my AD. Still yet to get a call.

I never said the Starbucks was harder to get than the Pepsi, I said the NEW gmt. Ie the black and grey one. Those are a lot more widely available.

You seem to have gotten a bit worked up over a simple statement and misinterpreted what I actually said. As you say, we are all going to have different experiences. There are some general guidelines but there are also many variables.

[garyk]

Green dial YG Daytona was near impossible to get unless you were incredibly lucky or one of those special AD relationship VIPs that Padi mentioned.

[drrd]

Originally Posted by Djoker48

Non-precious metal only

1. Titanium Yachtmaster 42
2. Daytona White
3. Daytona Black
4. Pepsi
5. Skydweller Green
6. Skydweller Blue
7. Sprite
8. OP Celebration Dial
9. Batman / Girl
10. Bruce Wayne
11. Green Submariner
12. Submariner No Date
13. Submariner Date
14. White / Black Skydweller
15. Explorer 2
16. Explorer 1
17. Air King

You mean for you?

[fly4food84]

Pepsi is harder to get than Daytona Black/White “right now.” Almost no one is getting them in 2024.

There may be some shift in the 126 Daytonas I’m seeing a lot more AD incomings for white than black and in the new reference it appears like Black may be the new preferred variant. Just my .02.

[Kinnakeet]

I see several SS Daytonas most times I go to the mall or Disney. My husband was wearing one once in a meeting and there was 2 others wearing one. Saw a guy last week wearing one in David SW. Many subs. Green subs. See the new GMT’s often. Saw a blue sky dweller recently. But I have only seen 3 other exp 2’s in the wild other than a friend that has one. My AD said he rarely gets them in. I my experience steel Daytonas are not at all rare.

[travisb]

I think a couple could be shifted around but it's in the ballpark.
Also depends on the AD and who the customer is.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by travisb

I think a couple could be shifted around but it's in the ballpark.
Also depends on the AD and who the customer is.

This ^^^

[JRell]

Originally Posted by dmash

Strongly disagree and grey market does too. I can buy a green sub for $14k easy today. GMT 17-22k. Not even close actually.

Was much easier for me to get my sub LV vs the BLNR, so I do agree.

[Hollie_Rollie]

From an AD who knows bc of the smoke and mirror games they play.

But in reality none are hard to get. Look at the FS section and the endless “bumps” for each of these models

For Example here’s a Daytona that is struggling to find a home :

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=956559

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[Gearjockey]

Originally Posted by Hulkhunter

I’d say the green sub is harder to get than the new GMT or even the BLNR.

Also, some of the OPs are a lot harder to get than quite a lot of the watches on that list.
OP36 Turquoise,
Celebration, Green

Not trying to pile on but I don’t believe green sub is harder to get than BLNR.

I don’t think it’s even harder to get than new GRNR.

But hey man, that’s just like, my opinion!

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

From an AD who knows bc of the smoke and mirror games they play.

But in reality none are hard to get. Look at the FS section and the endless “bumps” for each of these models

For Example here’s a Daytona that is struggling to find a home :

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=956559

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Because he won’t budge off that price and market is about 28k currently for those. It’s simple math. lol

Idk why you’re insisting on this being some ‘game’ as if watches like the Daytona aren’t in fact well above MSRP. Honestly you keep reiterating this stuff almost like you wish it was true but everybody knows it’s not. I can pull up multiple Panda Daytonas which sold for $33k + tax on eBay in the last 2 weeks alone. And hardly anybody actually buys there due to the additional mandatory sales tax.

Just being honest. You’ve went from GMTs aren’t hard to now ‘no watch’, even Daytonas are actually are hard to get, and using a sole $30.5k listing which hasn’t sold for one month and your ‘AD buddy’ as your basis. I can literally take a Panda Daytona and flip it within MINUTES to 50+ people for $27.5k. But yeah, they’re not hard to get and this is all fake

[Poodlopogus]

I would consider the top five to be (in order):

1. Ti YM
2. Daytona (both variants equal)
3. BLRO
4. Celebration
5. OP "Stella" (aside from green)

Three of those seem to be difficult for ADs to actually get into inventory - Celebration, BLRO, YM - at least at the moment. Relative production would appear low, and for good reason:

1. Ti requires special production processes and tooling so Rolex won't invest too heavily in capacity.
2. BLRO has supposedly had QC issues with the ceramic production and can't ramp it up.
3. Celebration dial takes much longer to make on a watch that has the same wholesale price as any other OP of the same size, so far fewer will be made.

Agree with the above post that the Ti YM hype will die down because that watch will never develop the same type of cult following as the Daytona has had for almost 25 years or the BLRO has enjoyed since release.