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Old 25 September 2019, 02:38 PM   #61
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My experience all stores are different.

October 18 purchased a SS Sub, just walked into Goldsmiths store with no prior history. Sales person had been phoning customers all day with no success.

December 18 White Gold 116519 was mine.

January 19 White dial Daytona bought.

Personally, I had a wonderful experience with Goldsmiths.
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Old 25 September 2019, 02:42 PM   #62
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I’ve had similar experience.

So far this year I bought a TT Sub, Sub No Date, TT Sky Dweller and GMT II all from different ADs.

I just always pop in when I see a Rolex logo, pays off...


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Old 25 September 2019, 02:44 PM   #63
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I think we the buyers could stop this as well. It's not realistic, but if the vast majority of buyers decided against paying over MSRP for a mass-manufactured bauble and/or refuse to "bundle" and/or unnecessarily purchases of jewelry, this insanity would stop.



Unfortunately, human nature being what it is: Means + Impatience (I want it NOW)= Excessive Prices on the grey market.



We do have some power to control this situation, we just choose not to exercise it.


You are putting the cart before the horse. You should be talking about the people willing and impatient enough to pay grey prices.

AD practices are a reaction to the secondary market price, not the cause.


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Old 25 September 2019, 06:36 PM   #64
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So it seems you asked for a blue skyddweller a hulk, daytona, or a pepsi and were told you need to buy something, and in this case it was jewelry. Hmm?
I have a Hulk from them already.

Dude - I asked for a CHNR.
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Old 25 September 2019, 06:53 PM   #65
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I have bought but that was my exit watch so I didn't have a strategy!!!

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Old 25 September 2019, 07:33 PM   #66
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The markup on "jewelry" far exceeds the markup on watches of any brand. So if you spend $20K on jewelry you may be handing them $10K-$15K for the privilege of paying msrp for your beloved Rolex. Do the math. Sounds like they've been working you over pretty good already.
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Old 25 September 2019, 08:22 PM   #67
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I have built my small collection of varying brands from one dealer in the hope that it would lead to some flagship models.

You know, a Speedy here, TT DJ there, a Monaco, a no date in for good measure, then a Hulk if I’m lucky?

So following a conversation yesterday with my own AD here in the UK, it appears to them that it doesn’t matter if you buy 2 gold Rolexes out of the window, a Heuer, an Omega and a Tudor, you will NOT get on their 'lists' for the big boys in the SS market unless you show them a little love with jewellery.

I was told this by the AD branch manager personally. His words:
“Anybody can come in and buy a Rolex or any watch for that matter, but what we look for with a buyer is somebody who supports us with our jewellery. If we ‘let’ you have a Hulk, Blue Sky-Dweller, Daytona or a Pepsi, we are effectively giving you a cheque for £7,000, so we would expect that back in kind from you”

Guys who have been fortunate enough to land the big pieces, what is your history? Did you land those pieces with just watches, multiple brands or diamonds?

Really interested to know.
There is no easy answer to this I don’t think.

I have bought jewellery but not anything over the £1k mark in any given year. I have however asked to get difficult to get SS pieces and the below has taken just over 10years to get. I didn’t really think about collecting until after I got the batman having realised how much I lost on cars and started to actively buy watches.

Bottom line if you spend a lot with them then yes you’ll probably get the watches easier.

Which really doesn’t explain my luck

Does anyone really know? :dummy

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Old 26 September 2019, 12:08 AM   #68
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I have built my small collection of varying brands from one dealer in the hope that it would lead to some flagship models.

You know, a Speedy here, TT DJ there, a Monaco, a no date in for good measure, then a Hulk if I’m lucky?

So following a conversation yesterday with my own AD here in the UK, it appears to them that it doesn’t matter if you buy 2 gold Rolexes out of the window, a Heuer, an Omega and a Tudor, you will NOT get on their 'lists' for the big boys in the SS market unless you show them a little love with jewellery.

I was told this by the AD branch manager personally. His words:
“Anybody can come in and buy a Rolex or any watch for that matter, but what we look for with a buyer is somebody who supports us with our jewellery. If we ‘let’ you have a Hulk, Blue Sky-Dweller, Daytona or a Pepsi, we are effectively giving you a cheque for £7,000, so we would expect that back in kind from you”

I struggle there because I’m 5 years married, and I have a wife who doesn’t care for diamonds short of her engagement ring. I only wear my wedding ring and I’m not Sly Stallone so a gold chain doesn’t really work for me.

We all know the issues here with strangling the supply and creating this mess.
The AD says they want the watch to go to collectors like us who won’t flip it, so they find us passionate nerds and strong arm us. I don’t think that sits right with me.

Guys who have been fortunate enough to land the big pieces, what is your history? Did you land those pieces with just watches, multiple brands or diamonds?

Really interested to know.
I have bought jewellery and an IWC watch from my AD, and I now have a Rootbeer, Batman, Steel Skydweller White Face, Tudor GMT and have a Hulk and a Tudor BB58 incoming.

The total price of jewellery and non-Rolex watches is now considerably less that the profit i have got in the Rolex, so i think it's a decent deal, and i have the non-Rolex to sell if I wanted to and a girlfriend who is happy with some nice jewellery.

Also, I say i want this and he says OK, you do this for me and I'll sort you out. If it think it's fair i do it and a few months later i have the watch i want.
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