Same minute track, different dials

[zapokee]

The minute tracks on these dials are exactly the same - font, markers, everything. They've got to be from the same manufacturer...

I'm guessing Rolex and Eterna outsourced the dial production to the same company. Can anybody shed any light on this?

[77T]

Those two are different dial masks - not identical. They look alike in many aspects but note that one mask is SWISS and the other is T SWISS T. Plus the 6 in 60 is flatter on the open hook seen on the Eterna Matic.

It is possible both were made by the same dialmaker, though. In the past Rolex had Singer, Beyeler and Lemrich making dials for different models at different times.

Chapter rings and dial tracks often emulated the tastes of the era - so its entirely possible two different dialmakers also made those dials.


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[zapokee]

Originally Posted by 77T

It is possible both were made by the same dialmaker

Yes. It would be extraordinary to see this level of homogeneity from separate manufacturers.

One is indeed "Swiss" and the other "T Swiss T," but otherwise they're the same (other than the obvious chapter ring on the Eterna). The "6"s aren't different when you have them in your hand. It's just the angle of the photo.

[mineral]

If they are same dial manufacturer, I actually like the Eterna dial design more. Love those triangle hour markers!


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[stmoore]

They are very close. It seems the 4s and especially the 5s are different.

[77T]

Originally Posted by zapokee

The "6"s aren't different when you have them in your hand. It's just the angle of the photo.

If you have them in your hands then a definitive answer is possible. The backs should have some markings from the dial maker. Not suggesting a gratuitous teardown unless your curiosity thirst needs slaking.

Some examples from a dial website (not same models as you have but illustrates markings).








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[zapokee]

Originally Posted by 77T

Not suggesting a gratuitous teardown unless your curiosity thirst needs slaking.

Yes, that would be a bit extreme. Just wondered if anybody knew without my having to take the things apart.