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JP. · 27 October 2019, 06:41 PM

This watch supposedly has a red SWISS service dial from RSC.

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/red-s...-id1401939.htm

There is a thread of a smilar watch on TRF.
http://archive.is/Hml4m

What do the 4-digit gurus think? The crown guards look to be very thick and the crystal shape is weird.

Left: Watch on Chrono24 -- Right: Typical looking 1680 crown guards

Gold Crown · 30 October 2019, 06:45 AM

It looks fake to me the Rolex crown is to wide.

rolexest · 30 October 2019, 07:06 AM

I would stay away from it. Like you said, the crown guards are way off.

PRSWILL · 30 October 2019, 08:42 AM

there are MANY variations of this dating back to the late 60's early 70's I'd put this one at 1971-73 and the crown guards varied as well. I would not say this is "fake" so quickly- you need to check it out and 2 pictures on this forum is just going to get you a huge amount of opinions- many of which are unfounded.

Liquid Snake · 31 October 2019, 09:34 AM

That Submariner font is a bit on the large side.

PRSWILL · 1 November 2019, 12:11 AM

Here's a 1971 Service dial.... Same as OP's this is legit. Like I said, there are MANY variations- very collectable.

JP. · 3 November 2019, 07:05 PM

Yes this is a tough one. The crystal is aftermarket anyway. That's a weird thing. Why put aftermarket cheap sh*t to a collectible watch?

There's something I don't like about the crown guards. Can't put my finger on it.

PRSWILL · 4 November 2019, 03:13 AM

What makes you think the crystal is aftermarket? If you like this watch, i'd get it into a reputable collector's gallery and have it reviewed. There are SO many variations out there in the late 60's/early 70's watches- some had very thick crystals like this one... just curious what "tell" you see that make you think it's Aftermarket. I think this watch has a lot of potential..

springer · 4 November 2019, 09:14 AM

Looks like a service center watch - with all service parts.

REBM · 5 November 2019, 12:24 AM

704 crown
dial "submariner" printing
crystal without chamfer
case engraving unclean

The overall picture is very dubious...

27 October 2019, 06:41 PM	#1
JP. "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Juho Location: Finland Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 1,914	Red service dial on a 1680? This watch supposedly has a red SWISS service dial from RSC. https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/red-s...-id1401939.htm There is a thread of a smilar watch on TRF. http://archive.is/Hml4m What do the 4-digit gurus think? The crown guards look to be very thick and the crystal shape is weird. Left: Watch on Chrono24 -- Right: Typical looking 1680 crown guards __________________ My Luxury Watch Reviews Blog

1 November 2019, 12:11 AM	#6
PRSWILL "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 267	Here's a 1971 Service dial.... Same as OP's this is legit. Like I said, there are MANY variations- very collectable. Attached Images

3 November 2019, 07:05 PM	#7
JP. "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Juho Location: Finland Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 1,914	Yes this is a tough one. The crystal is aftermarket anyway. That's a weird thing. Why put aftermarket cheap sh*t to a collectible watch? There's something I don't like about the crown guards. Can't put my finger on it. __________________ My Luxury Watch Reviews Blog

4 November 2019, 09:14 AM	#9
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Looks like a service center watch - with all service parts. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

30 October 2019, 06:45 AM	#2
Gold Crown Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Ross Location: Chicago Area Watch: 6265 18K Daytona Posts: 928	It looks fake to me the Rolex crown is to wide.

30 October 2019, 07:06 AM	#3
rolexest Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Canada Watch: ya gunna do Posts: 508	I would stay away from it. Like you said, the crown guards are way off.

30 October 2019, 08:42 AM	#4
PRSWILL "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 267	there are MANY variations of this dating back to the late 60's early 70's I'd put this one at 1971-73 and the crown guards varied as well. I would not say this is "fake" so quickly- you need to check it out and 2 pictures on this forum is just going to get you a huge amount of opinions- many of which are unfounded.

31 October 2019, 09:34 AM	#5
Liquid Snake "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Brandon Location: Florida Watch: Rolex Oysterquartz Posts: 73	That Submariner font is a bit on the large side.

4 November 2019, 03:13 AM	#8
PRSWILL "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 267	What makes you think the crystal is aftermarket? If you like this watch, i'd get it into a reputable collector's gallery and have it reviewed. There are SO many variations out there in the late 60's/early 70's watches- some had very thick crystals like this one... just curious what "tell" you see that make you think it's Aftermarket. I think this watch has a lot of potential..

5 November 2019, 12:24 AM	#10
REBM "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: EU \| Germany Posts: 109	704 crown dial "submariner" printing crystal without chamfer case engraving unclean The overall picture is very dubious...

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