Seiko pulling out of Basel

[mgsooner]

the hits keep coming

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/se...aselworld-2020

While Seiko has not yet announced any alternative plans for 2020, Grand Seiko has confirmed that it will hold a separate Grand Seiko summit, in March of 2020.

[Fat_ninja]

Doh

[abelxo]

They totally brought it on their selves


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[Chewbacca]

Now the locals can have their life back.

From everything I’ve read, the venue owners overplayed their hand and Rolex / Swatch suck all the oxygen from the show anyway.

Even auto manufacturers are skipping auto shows.

[Lol-x]

From what I've heard the Basel venue and location has become inconvenient, prohibitively expensive and frustrating....

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

From what I've heard the Basel venue and location has become inconvenient, prohibitively expensive and frustrating....

The irony is thick.

It’s like buying a stainless Swiss watch.

[BigAppleBill]

As long as Rolex, Patek & a handful of others participate, the show will go on. Maybe Seiko got tired of their upstairs location, away from the action on the ground floor.

[Bizcut1]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

The irony is thick.

It’s like buying a stainless Swiss watch.

So on the money.

[1William]

Good for Seiko.

[BostonFiestaST]

Has anyone here ever attended Baselworld? Is there any point for a watch enthusiast (rather than a journalist or AD)? I have been wondering whether that would be a fun trip or not.

All the brands starting their own events in different places and at different times obviously makes this harder. I can imagining traveling to a single event with many brands but likely wouldn’t go to a one brand event unless it’s close and convenient.


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[pickettt]

Maybe the Swiss chose not to invite them.....again

[Tzolkin]

Finalizing the show dates to coincide with Japan's "Golden Week" is basically telling a Japanese company "We do not value your business as much as our other clients." Japanese business culture, like many Asian business cultures, see significance in even small gestures and this decision by Baselworld is a strongly negative gesture.

[descartes]

Originally Posted by BostonFiestaST

Has anyone here ever attended Baselworld? Is there any point for a watch enthusiast (rather than a journalist or AD)? I have been wondering whether that would be a fun trip or not.

All the brands starting their own events in different places and at different times obviously makes this harder. I can imagining traveling to a single event with many brands but likely wouldn’t go to a one brand event unless it’s close and convenient.


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It’s a blast to attend, especially if you’re a fan of Rolex and Patek.

[ILuvSubs]

Sounds like hubris on the part of the organisers. I get the feeling the Swatch Group and Seiko won't be the last, but they are two pretty big names in the industry.

Originally Posted by Tzolkin

Finalizing the show dates to coincide with Japan's "Golden Week" is basically telling a Japanese company "We do not value your business as much as our other clients." Japanese business culture, like many Asian business cultures, see significance in even small gestures and this decision by Baselworld is a strongly negative gesture.

[tom2517]

Originally Posted by Tzolkin

Finalizing the show dates to coincide with Japan's "Golden Week" is basically telling a Japanese company "We do not value your business as much as our other clients." Japanese business culture, like many Asian business cultures, see significance in even small gestures and this decision by Baselworld is a strongly negative gesture.

Yes, I read from Japanese news as well, basically the two points above posts mentioned, one is the golden week and the other is as one of the biggest watch company in the world, they are still up on the second floor. But the news also said it is only for this year, Seiko has not ruled out next year and on.

[Tzolkin]

Originally Posted by ILuvSubs

Sounds like hubris on the part of the organisers. I get the feeling the Swatch Group and Seiko won't be the last, but they are two pretty big names in the industry.

There is a WatchPro interview in which the Baselworld managing director said it is very difficult to find the perfect time that can satisfy everyone. He said, "There is the car show in Geneva, there is another show here, then there is Easter, carnival holidays. January would be the best month for the watch industry, but not for jewellery. February would be fine, but that is the Chinese New Year. There is Easter, May Day, Ramadan, the Golden Week. It was a nightmare."

So they chose this time knowing about Golden Week. They are basically telling Seiko that compared to the other factors, the Japanese Golden Week factor is less important.