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Old 26 December 2019, 06:10 PM   #1
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I tend to agree to not buy over MSRP. I have the new blnr on jubilee and no date sub. Started in 2018, never payed over retail. I can not do that, it is just not logical (spock reference). Furthermore, one small hickup in the economy and prices will drop significantly, eg Brexit is coming! Next argument, people buying over Retail are artificially sustaining the market. I myself do not agree with the prices, at 17k for a pepsi you can buy haute horlogery!!! Don’t get me wrong, Rolex builds very accurate and stable movements/watches but open up the back and compare to other high end brands and you will see it is not decorated that well. Rolex is in this for the toughness, reliability and accuracy. They won’t win a a beauty contest with their movements :-) my 2 cents
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Old 26 December 2019, 06:32 PM   #2
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I think whether it is “worth it” or not is relative to what you are willing to spend. If you want it right now, just go for it. I thought the Daytona ceramic was expensive at 15k, welp two years later, it is worse :p

If you want to wear it today, go for it!
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Old 26 December 2019, 06:38 PM   #3
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I think whether it is “worth it” or not is relative to what you are willing to spend. If you want it right now, just go for it. I thought the Daytona ceramic was expensive at 15k, welp two years later, it is worse

If you want to wear it today, go for it!
Yes, if you want it, why not go for it? But yet again you might be over paying for something that might not be worth it or might be half the price in a short time. So just take a bottle of beer and wait up.

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Old 26 December 2019, 06:45 PM   #4
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If you want it, you can pay it, and it is your only watch for yourself, buy it, and enjoy this magnificent watch, you can also buy a Root Beer that is still much prettier. lose money in the future? ..... there are people who buy Omega, IWC, Blancpain and as soon as you leave the AD you have already lost money
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Old 26 December 2019, 07:07 PM   #5
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I buy new at any AD ,as a rule .Recently bought a M serial 16613 in great condition on a Black Friday special from a used dealer .(Black Friday special on Rolex ? Weird but true)

The Pepsi @ Grey pricing :
Personally ,I wont ,BUT even at Grey pricing it is most likely to keep its value and rise in value over time.

So,if that is what you want ,go for it .(I would stick to bnib,box,papers )
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Old 26 December 2019, 08:46 PM   #6
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It’s nice and all but is it that nice? Not so sure.


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Old 26 December 2019, 09:13 PM   #7
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Such consternation...if you need to be talked out of it, don’t do it.
If a few thousand dollars is a big deal to you, then definitely don’t do it.
Personally, I never consider resell values on these playthings. I don’t care if they become worthless tomorrow, and certainly have never viewed them as investments. Ask yourself what would you rather have for similar money. If nothing else comes up, then buy the Pepsi and enjoy it.
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Old 26 December 2019, 09:23 PM   #8
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If you like it, buy it!! :-) You only life once!
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Old 26 December 2019, 09:44 PM   #9
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OP, what did you decide to do?
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Old 26 December 2019, 09:45 PM   #10
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If you really want the watch and have the resources to buy it then go for it. Great watch and you will enjoy it. In the end it is about ownership and wear.
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Old 26 December 2019, 10:01 PM   #11
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If you want it, you can't get onto a list and you have the grey price at your disposal, then buy it. It's your life, your money and your watch - possibly.

Conversely, if there is a doubt there is no doubt. Why are you hesitating?
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Old 26 December 2019, 10:41 PM   #12
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For the price, I would venture into Royal Oak line.
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Old 28 December 2019, 02:12 AM   #13
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For the price, I would venture into Royal Oak line.
This!
For these prices there’s steel pieces from exclusive manufacturers
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Old 26 December 2019, 10:50 PM   #14
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If it fits your budget, it is the finest watch in the current a Rolex catalogue... as others have said, it will be made for 10 years... so get it now, and rock the coolest hottest watch there is for the next 10 years!
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Old 26 December 2019, 10:52 PM   #15
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Old 26 December 2019, 11:38 PM   #16
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If I really wanted a Pepsi I would buy the 5 digit. Get the full set and can’t go wrong.
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Old 26 December 2019, 11:54 PM   #17
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If you can afford it, why not??? Money comes and goes but your time is limited on this earth. Forget others value system as it isn’t a factor to your lifestyle.
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Old 28 December 2019, 11:25 AM   #18
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If you can afford it, why not??? Money comes and goes but your time is limited on this earth. Forget others value system as it isn’t a factor to your lifestyle.
I like your thoughts Mystro .. Good points
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Old 27 December 2019, 12:08 AM   #19
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Influencing something personal is not my cup of tea. My advice though is to buy the watch that sings best to your heart. Good luck!


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Old 27 December 2019, 12:17 AM   #20
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It's a time value of money question. If the time spent going to the stores, browsing photos, playing the AD game etc costs more than the premium, just pay the premium. Like paying a ticket scalper or the days of old where you pay someone to stand in line at the Apple store for you.

FWIW, I made the 'painful' decision to pay up for a white Daytona, hated paying the premium back while it was still around 20k, but haven't regreted it since. My AD still has not been able to procure one despite a large purchase history. So rather than get annoyed at the games, I just enjoy the watch and move on with life. The retail experience is so bad at this point, my mind has moved onto AP.

Lots of others may rightly say never pay up, but if for example you're billable hours are say $500 an hour and you spend 20 hours thinking about it...then you might as well have just enjoyed the watch without thinking about it. Besides crazy watch forums like this, no one in the real world is going to bother to ask if you sourced it from an AD or if you paid someone to source it for you.
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Old 27 December 2019, 12:24 AM   #21
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The OP asked to be talked out of it. Not talked into it. That says it all right there.
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Old 27 December 2019, 12:30 AM   #22
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Go right ahead and make your purchase.


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Old 27 December 2019, 12:38 AM   #23
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I would feel better waiting and paying msrp and feeling good about my purchase, then paying grey prices and hoping the market doesn’t shift, which it will. Don’t go for instant gratification
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Old 27 December 2019, 01:09 AM   #24
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I, too, was tired of waiting so I paid the premium from a well know gray. Then the following week my AD called and said he had my Pepsi! I was fortunate as my gray took back the watch allowing me to get my Pepsi for MSRP. Moral, wait if you can.
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Old 27 December 2019, 10:43 AM   #25
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I, too, was tired of waiting so I paid the premium from a well know gray. Then the following week my AD called and said he had my Pepsi! I was fortunate as my gray took back the watch allowing me to get my Pepsi for MSRP. Moral, wait if you can.
That says it all and is all you need to read and digest!


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Old 27 December 2019, 03:25 AM   #26
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I constantly see people using the “mass produced” argument for not paying the premium. It’s all supply and demand. Some Rolex pieces are selling at a higher premium to the other higher end brands. More people want Rolex relative to pieces in existence than some other pieces frequently discussed here on the forum.
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Old 27 December 2019, 03:38 AM   #27
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No there are not if you want the watch, which is their best model imho, and you have no chance of buying one new in your name.
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Old 27 December 2019, 04:27 AM   #28
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Just do it. It appears you have the financial means and waiting 5+ years is too ridiculous. Live once.


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Old 27 December 2019, 04:44 AM   #29
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How much over would you pay potentially to get now? That would be a point of consideration.
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Old 27 December 2019, 05:24 AM   #30
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If you can support it, i'd say go for it. I personally don't mind paying a premium to a certain extent to buy and enjoy. Otherwise, i'd waste countless hours searching the forums to see price move +/- 400 bucks. Wait 2-5 years from AD, not for me. If the market holds, great! If not than, that's the expectation that you'll need to set.

Again, this is just my opinion and it's based on if you can support the purchase at a premium.
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