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TimeToGo · 6 March 2009, 10:06 PM

Really?!

themotts222( 2019)
Authentic Players Watch. The player is JOHN LEE. The watch states 1974 Cotton Bowl Classic. It has the day on top and date on right. It is working fine. No problem at all. It definately needs to be cleaned. There are some scratches to the face, no deep ones-no eyesores. The back of this watch states Case by Rolex Geneva Original Oyster . Then JOHN LEE in the center. I do not know the history of this player. This was purchased at auction with some other things that belonged to him. Thanks for looking. Good Luck Bidding.
http://cgi.ebay.com/AUTHENTIC-1974-C...1%7C240%3A1318

tudorman8276 · 7 March 2009, 01:13 AM

...I have never seen anything like this.

...it could very well be genuine and customized by the shop that sold them.

...albeit, it looks like a HORRIBLE dial.

...there are new and used dials on eBay occasionally that could possibly be replaced. Of course, it depends on the mvm't cal.

Stan.

jeff hess · 7 March 2009, 01:18 AM

These are well known. Genuine for sure.

don't take the watch down guys. Very well known and documented watches.

jeff hess · 7 March 2009, 01:19 AM

Here. found one on another site. I have owned scores of Cotton bowl watches.

Jeff (most of the by other brands)

http://www.championship-rings.net/im...8&window=popup

tudorman8276 · 7 March 2009, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff hess

Here. found one on another site. I have owned scores of Cotton bowl watches.

Jeff (most of the by other brands)

http://www.championship-rings.net/im...8&window=popup

...you CONFIRMED my thoughts.

Stan.

TimeToGo · 7 March 2009, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff hess

These are well known. Genuine for sure.

don't take the watch down guys. Very well known and documented watches.

A lot of times I will post listings for informational/discussion purposes. We do not take watches down!

I think by making this statement, you may be suggesting otherwise.

Thanks for the other posting. I agree with Stan, the initial impression on that DIAL was questionnable...

jeff hess · 7 March 2009, 04:17 AM

Dial is fine.

And let me rephrase! Sorry! "Don't turn this in to Lady Caspar as a fake watch so she thinks it is fake and then takes it down!"
;)
Jeff

Dan Pierce · 7 March 2009, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff hess

Dial is fine.

And let me rephrase! Sorry! "Don't turn this in to Lady Caspar as a fake watch so she thinks it is fake and then takes it down!"
;)
Jeff

Great info, thanks.

dP

Flaxmoore · 7 March 2009, 04:42 AM

Doing a little research, John Lee was a senior tackle for Nebraska in 1974. Cornhuskers over the Texas Longhorns, 19-3.

jeff hess · 7 March 2009, 05:07 AM

Cool watch. I am bidding

TimeToGo · 7 March 2009, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff hess

Dial is fine.

And let me rephrase! Sorry! "Don't turn this in to Lady Caspar as a fake watch so she thinks it is fake and then takes it down!"
;)
Jeff

First, correct spelling is Lady Casper!

Second, it's all fun and games....until someone loses an eye!

shaggy · 7 March 2009, 10:32 AM

devils advocate here guys but the listing title says "AUTHENTIC 1974 COTTON BOWL CLASSIC PLAYERS ROLEX WATCH"

its a TUDOR not a ROLEX!

so where is the line drawn then guys?
is this one allowed to breach listing policies?
and if so why?

TimeToGo · 7 March 2009, 10:35 AM

Howdy, Shag Man!

As long as the crown is not on the dial...

onkyo · 7 March 2009, 10:43 AM

No problem here either.

jeff hess · 7 March 2009, 12:09 PM

I see what you mean. this is one of those danged gray areas. I hate gray area's. Rolex did make them and many even say "Rolex" on the back or the bracelet. So I guess the guy gets a pass on that issue.

TimeToGo · 7 March 2009, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff hess

I see what you mean. this is one of those danged gray areas. I hate gray area's. Rolex did make them and many even say "Rolex" on the back or the bracelet. So I guess the guy gets a pass on that issue.

Jeeez..

springer · 8 March 2009, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff hess

I see what you mean. this is one of those danged gray areas. I hate gray area's. Rolex did make them and many even say "Rolex" on the back or the bracelet. So I guess the guy gets a pass on that issue.

No Jeff, there is no gray here. The watch might be genuine but , it is a Tudor watch, not a Rolex watch. In fact, this listing never mentions anything about it being a Tudor, but clearly calls it a Rolex. Although it might not be intentional, it is a deceptive and an incorrect listing and should be dealt with accordingly. The seller, as well as many potential buyers, don't know the difference between the two.

The listing should be corrected to read what type of watch he is selling.

jeff hess · 8 March 2009, 01:28 AM

DOH! I guess we will have to agree to disagree onthis on.e Gray area to me

Certainly not a reason to take the watch down.

Jeff (just one mans opinion!)

shaggy · 8 March 2009, 04:26 AM

sorry i dont agree TTG/onkyo/Jeff
if someone who does not know about the Rolex/Tudor conection buys this thinking its a Rolex then thats wrong
the listing is wrong and possibly in breach of ebay policies
there has to be a line drawn and stuck to guys imo
not having a pop at anyone but i think if this is ok then a lot of others that have been taken down were ok too

6 March 2009, 10:06 PM	#1
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Cotton Bowl Day-Date Tudor - Stan? Really?! themotts222( 2019) Authentic Players Watch. The player is JOHN LEE. The watch states 1974 Cotton Bowl Classic. It has the day on top and date on right. It is working fine. No problem at all. It definately needs to be cleaned. There are some scratches to the face, no deep ones-no eyesores. The back of this watch states Case by Rolex Geneva Original Oyster . Then JOHN LEE in the center. I do not know the history of this player. This was purchased at auction with some other things that belonged to him. Thanks for looking. Good Luck Bidding. http://cgi.ebay.com/AUTHENTIC-1974-C...1%7C240%3A1318 Attached Images

7 March 2009, 01:13 AM	#2
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...mmmm... ...I have never seen anything like this. ...it could very well be genuine and customized by the shop that sold them. ...albeit, it looks like a HORRIBLE dial. ...there are new and used dials on eBay occasionally that could possibly be replaced. Of course, it depends on the mvm't cal. Stan.

7 March 2009, 01:18 AM	#3
jeff hess "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Jeffrey P Hess Location: florida Watch: Patek and Ball Posts: 516	These are well known. Genuine for sure. don't take the watch down guys. Very well known and documented watches.

7 March 2009, 01:19 AM	#4
jeff hess "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Jeffrey P Hess Location: florida Watch: Patek and Ball Posts: 516	Here. found one on another site. I have owned scores of Cotton bowl watches. Jeff (most of the by other brands) http://www.championship-rings.net/im...8&window=popup

7 March 2009, 04:17 AM	#7
jeff hess "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Jeffrey P Hess Location: florida Watch: Patek and Ball Posts: 516	Dial is fine. And let me rephrase! Sorry! "Don't turn this in to Lady Caspar as a fake watch so she thinks it is fake and then takes it down!" ;) Jeff

7 March 2009, 04:42 AM	#9
Flaxmoore Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Casey Location: Toledo, Ohio Watch: Alpha Milsub Posts: 704	Doing a little research, John Lee was a senior tackle for Nebraska in 1974. Cornhuskers over the Texas Longhorns, 19-3.

7 March 2009, 05:07 AM	#10
jeff hess "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Jeffrey P Hess Location: florida Watch: Patek and Ball Posts: 516	Cool watch. I am bidding

7 March 2009, 10:32 AM	#12
shaggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Brett Location: leeds,uk Watch: BLUE ARAB DAYTONA Posts: 691	devils advocate here guys but the listing title says "AUTHENTIC 1974 COTTON BOWL CLASSIC PLAYERS ROLEX WATCH" its a TUDOR not a ROLEX! so where is the line drawn then guys? is this one allowed to breach listing policies? and if so why?

7 March 2009, 10:35 AM	#13
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Howdy, Shag Man! As long as the crown is not on the dial...

7 March 2009, 10:43 AM	#14
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	No problem here either.

7 March 2009, 12:09 PM	#15
jeff hess "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Jeffrey P Hess Location: florida Watch: Patek and Ball Posts: 516	I see what you mean. this is one of those danged gray areas. I hate gray area's. Rolex did make them and many even say "Rolex" on the back or the bracelet. So I guess the guy gets a pass on that issue.

8 March 2009, 01:28 AM	#18
jeff hess "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Jeffrey P Hess Location: florida Watch: Patek and Ball Posts: 516	DOH! I guess we will have to agree to disagree onthis on.e Gray area to me Certainly not a reason to take the watch down. Jeff (just one mans opinion!)

8 March 2009, 04:26 AM	#19
shaggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Brett Location: leeds,uk Watch: BLUE ARAB DAYTONA Posts: 691	sorry i dont agree TTG/onkyo/Jeff if someone who does not know about the Rolex/Tudor conection buys this thinking its a Rolex then thats wrong the listing is wrong and possibly in breach of ebay policies there has to be a line drawn and stuck to guys imo not having a pop at anyone but i think if this is ok then a lot of others that have been taken down were ok too

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