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Ogie · 12 March 2009, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by langdalematt

I have just had some very important information given to me. I have been told the following:

1). Rolex UK price increase end of April 6%

2). I have also been told that the new sub date in indeed to be a ceramic bezel. It will also be, (wait for it) a 43mm watch. It will also have the old style deployment and not the new Glidelock strap.

I cannot confirm these as definite, but I have a very good source who I cannot name.

Enjoy and debate.

The Ceramic bezel YES. I dont think it will be 43mm and have the old style deployment. We will wait and see...

Mthwatch · 12 March 2009, 03:04 AM

There's no way this could be accurate. It has become clear that the only substantial changes that we will see have ALREADY been released on other models. Notably - the new case with wider lugs, the ceramic bezel and the new clasp with glidelock. There is no way they will suddenly produce a 43mm SS sub with the old style clasp while there already exists a 40mm Gold Sub with a glidelock clasp. That makes no sense at all.

Welshwatchman · 12 March 2009, 04:25 AM

40, 43, 46, 49mm, it doesn't matter.

I'm not laying out £5,000 plus for a mass produced SS Sub.

Jason71 · 12 March 2009, 04:42 AM

It does make me happy that I already own the ones that I want.

tthopp05 · 12 March 2009, 04:45 AM

Thats intresting,the idea of changing the loved 40mm.

tthopp05 · 12 March 2009, 04:48 AM

Do you think they would give up on the DSSD so fast?Its not even a year.Cant wait to see what they do.

moby33 · 12 March 2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mthwatch

There's no way this could be accurate. It has become clear that the only substantial changes that we will see have ALREADY been released on other models. Notably - the new case with wider lugs, the ceramic bezel and the new clasp with glidelock. There is no way they will suddenly produce a 43mm SS sub with the old style clasp while there already exists a 40mm Gold Sub with a glidelock clasp. That makes no sense at all.

My thoughts exactly. I would have thrown all these points at the 'good source' and then pulled out the BS flag.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tthopp05

Do you think they would give up on the DSSD so fast?Its not even a year.Cant wait to see what they do.

No. I for one do not believe the DSSD is in any type of crisis. I have a strange feeling if this watch would have been released 3-5 years ago during the contemporary hey-day of Extreme Premiums over MSRP for years after Rolex released a new watch, the DSSD would still be bringing in top $ and flying out of the cases. These are indeed unparalleled economic times for all of us...every watch Rolex produces has taken a considerable hit when it comes to sales demand & selling price in the last 15 months. Things will get better, but it ain't going to happen in '09 (and probably for most of '10) IMO!

Andad · 12 March 2009, 05:56 PM

It would be nice to think we would get an SS Subdate, maxi case black ceramic and a TT Blue Subdate with maxi case blue ceramic both with the glidelok clasp.

It would not be good to even think about the price.

Singslinger · 12 March 2009, 06:12 PM

I think after the DSSD, anything is possible. We'll just have to wait and see - all will be revealed in a few weeks!

bardm · 12 March 2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by langdalematt

I have just had some very important information given to me. I have been told the following:

1). Rolex UK price increase end of April 6%

2). I have also been told that the new sub date in indeed to be a ceramic bezel. It will also be, (wait for it) a 43mm watch. It will also have the old style deployment and not the new Glidelock strap.

I cannot confirm these as definite, but I have a very good source who I cannot name.

Enjoy and debate.

I don't know about the price increase, but the rest is, excuse me, bull. Everyone know it's going to be ceramic. What we don't know is when it's coming.

No way your "good source" now what he is talking about when it comes to the 43 mm case and the old clasp. It's pretty obvious the case will be the same as the new WG sub, and the clasp will probably be the new glidelock. If not it will be the GMT IIc clasp. There will be no more new models with the old clasp.

Psmith · 12 March 2009, 09:29 PM

This would not make much sense. The new Sub has been with us for some time in YG and WG. The TT is expected this year, and the SS either this year or next.

Rolex tend to keep models in the catalogue for years on end, so I don't believe that the DSSD will be discontinued after only one year.

Two weeks to go...

Cheers

Lion · 12 March 2009, 10:53 PM

Isn't guessing, speculation and rumors fun!!!

langdalematt · 13 March 2009, 01:44 AM

I finally managed to spend some 30 minutes with my contact on the phone today. It seems I got the wrong end of the stick yesterday and he confirmed that the new sub will be based on the same case as the GMT, minus the extra hand. He did confirm that the bracelet is planned to be the same as the GMT, but he also thought that pressure could well be exerted and they could move to a glidelock. He also mentioned that the GMT may well get a white face this year. Once again he spoke of the huge price increases that could well be worldwide. Apparently Rolex wants to stop middle men from making money by buying and selling the watches for a profit. The GMTII will be a massive 5,500 GBP, so god knows what that means for the new sub prices. The Deepsea will be 6,300 GBP. Not sure on the others yet.

moby33 · 13 March 2009, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by langdalematt

I finally managed to spend some 30 minutes with my contact on the phone today. It seems I got the wrong end of the stick yesterday and he confirmed that the new sub will be based on the same case as the GMT, minus the extra hand. He did confirm that the bracelet is planned to be the same as the GMT, but he also thought that pressure could well be exerted and they could move to a glidelock. He also mentioned that the GMT may well get a white face this year. Once again he spoke of the huge price increases that could well be worldwide. Apparently Rolex wants to stop middle men from making money by buying and selling the watches for a profit. The GMTII will be a massive 5,500 GBP, so god knows what that means for the new sub prices. The Deepsea will be 6,300 GBP. Not sure on the others yet.

Now that makes a little more sense to me. I still think all new models should get the Glidelock, but then again I can see them keeping it in just a select few models with a higher MSRP in order to keep the 'balance of powers' correct...gives people a little more pause when they might be on the fence between choosing one over the other.

That price increase is CRAZY (especially considering these economic times)...but then again, I can kind of understand the logic. The economy will not always be this bad, they are obviously looking toward the future. My only thought would be to postpone such an increase...god knows the 'middle men' are not making a killing buying then selling for a profit in this market.

SirLoki · 13 March 2009, 04:28 AM

thinking about it a little bit, i have a feeling the new sub will be identical to the new white gold sub but just in stainless with a black dial...... keeping it simple.

Mr Sandman · 13 March 2009, 05:54 AM

Time to go pre loved and stay with the classic shape and size.

DSJ · 13 March 2009, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mic6

The new sub has already been introduced last year and it is 40mm
I guess your source is not very reliable

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGRINDEL

Agree with Yogi 100%!!!! If it was going to 43mm, we would have seen it on the all gold versions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Sandman

Time to go pre loved and stay with the classic shape and size.

EXACTLY my thought.

dra44 · 13 March 2009, 06:04 AM

Other than price, will there be any changes to the DSSD? If not I think I have to pull the trigger now before the increase hits.

Jimbits76 · 13 March 2009, 07:39 AM

Wont we be seeing just the TT sub this year??????

I fully expect a TT version of the gold sub we've had for a year.

I'm actually with Paul on this...£5500 for a mass produced divers watch....those BP FFs don't seem so ridiculously priced now.

J

joeyk · 13 March 2009, 07:55 AM

cant wait to see:~)

aelvin · 13 March 2009, 12:07 PM

would love to see the glidelock on the sub... 2 more weeks!!!!

12 March 2009, 04:25 AM	#3
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	40, 43, 46, 49mm, it doesn't matter. I'm not laying out £5,000 plus for a mass produced SS Sub. __________________ ..33

12 March 2009, 04:42 AM	#4
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	It does make me happy that I already own the ones that I want. __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

12 March 2009, 05:56 PM	#8
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,534	It would be nice to think we would get an SS Subdate, maxi case black ceramic and a TT Blue Subdate with maxi case blue ceramic both with the glidelok clasp. It would not be good to even think about the price. __________________ E

12 March 2009, 09:29 PM	#11
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	This would not make much sense. The new Sub has been with us for some time in YG and WG. The TT is expected this year, and the SS either this year or next. Rolex tend to keep models in the catalogue for years on end, so I don't believe that the DSSD will be discontinued after only one year. Two weeks to go... Cheers __________________

12 March 2009, 10:53 PM	#12
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Isn't guessing, speculation and rumors fun!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

12 March 2009, 03:04 AM	#2
Mthwatch Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Richmond, VA Watch: Panerai 000 Posts: 144	There's no way this could be accurate. It has become clear that the only substantial changes that we will see have ALREADY been released on other models. Notably - the new case with wider lugs, the ceramic bezel and the new clasp with glidelock. There is no way they will suddenly produce a 43mm SS sub with the old style clasp while there already exists a 40mm Gold Sub with a glidelock clasp. That makes no sense at all.

12 March 2009, 04:45 AM	#5
tthopp05 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NY Watch: THE MIGHTY DEEPSEA Posts: 839	Thats intresting,the idea of changing the loved 40mm.

12 March 2009, 04:48 AM	#6
tthopp05 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NY Watch: THE MIGHTY DEEPSEA Posts: 839	Do you think they would give up on the DSSD so fast?Its not even a year.Cant wait to see what they do.

12 March 2009, 06:12 PM	#9
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	I think after the DSSD, anything is possible. We'll just have to wait and see - all will be revealed in a few weeks!

13 March 2009, 01:44 AM	#13
langdalematt Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mark Location: London Watch: Rolex Deepsea Posts: 81	Big news Update I finally managed to spend some 30 minutes with my contact on the phone today. It seems I got the wrong end of the stick yesterday and he confirmed that the new sub will be based on the same case as the GMT, minus the extra hand. He did confirm that the bracelet is planned to be the same as the GMT, but he also thought that pressure could well be exerted and they could move to a glidelock. He also mentioned that the GMT may well get a white face this year. Once again he spoke of the huge price increases that could well be worldwide. Apparently Rolex wants to stop middle men from making money by buying and selling the watches for a profit. The GMTII will be a massive 5,500 GBP, so god knows what that means for the new sub prices. The Deepsea will be 6,300 GBP. Not sure on the others yet.

13 March 2009, 05:54 AM	#16
Mr Sandman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Jim Location: Devon U.K Posts: 527	Time to go pre loved and stay with the classic shape and size.

13 March 2009, 06:04 AM	#18
dra44 Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dave Location: New Jersey Watch: 116523 White Dial Posts: 44	Other than price, will there be any changes to the DSSD? If not I think I have to pull the trigger now before the increase hits.

13 March 2009, 07:39 AM	#19
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	Wont we be seeing just the TT sub this year?????? I fully expect a TT version of the gold sub we've had for a year. I'm actually with Paul on this...£5500 for a mass produced divers watch....those BP FFs don't seem so ridiculously priced now. J

13 March 2009, 07:55 AM	#20
joeyk "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: uk/earth Watch: GMT IIc Posts: 698	cant wait to see:~)

13 March 2009, 12:07 PM	#21
aelvin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Aelvin Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 330	would love to see the glidelock on the sub... 2 more weeks!!!!

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