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Law4778 · 18 March 2009, 09:07 PM

Hey everyone i have had my new non date sub just over a week now, originaly i wasn't a lover of the cyclops on the date version so went with the non date, i am now finding myself drawn to the date version for two reasons,

1) I miss not having a date as i took it for granted before and have found i use it a few times a day.

2) I also now feel as though i have got the lesser model in terms of the 16610 coming with the better bracelet.

I have been i contact with the AD i bought it from and i don't think there is any problem in me swapping it i just need to pay the extra £360 along with another £60 for a new warranty card for my watch.

Anyone any thoughts on what to do, would just like some opinions, Cheers.

bardm · 18 March 2009, 09:15 PM

I would change it for two reasons:

1) If you already now is dissatisfied it won't be better later. You obviously did the wrong choice (for you).
2.) I think the date function is very useful and I think the cyclops is something typical for a Rolex which is nice.

padi56 · 18 March 2009, 09:15 PM

Well if you want the date function then its quite simple get the 16610,although the SEL bracelet is a little bit more solid less rattle.Would not call it a better bracelet than the one on the 14060m, both are quite functional and very long lasting, movement wise both basically same .

Mirx · 18 March 2009, 09:16 PM

Well, if the date function is really important to you then, yes, a swapp for a 16610 definitely makes sense. I personally could not compromise on this feature as I use the date on daily basis.

I wouldn't worry about the extra £420. It will be worthwhile in the long run.

Good luck in your decision!

gettocard · 18 March 2009, 09:23 PM

do it. We need to have a date on a watch,so that we can keep our brain free to do other productive stuff....like work hard to make money to spend on watches !!!

joeyk · 18 March 2009, 10:14 PM

i would if i were you . no point that you brought something you not satisfied, while you still can change it :-)

Andad · 18 March 2009, 10:16 PM

Yes & no.

louie · 18 March 2009, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Law4778

Hey everyone i have had my new non date sub just over a week now, originaly i wasn't a lover of the cyclops on the date version so went with the non date, i am now finding myself drawn to the date version for two reasons,

1) I miss not having a date as i took it for granted before and have found i use it a few times a day.

2) I also now feel as though i have got the lesser model in terms of the 16610 coming with the better bracelet.

I have been i contact with the AD i bought it from and i don't think there is any problem in me swapping it i just need to pay the extra £360 along with another £60 for a new warranty card for my watch.

Anyone any thoughts on what to do, would just like some opinions, Cheers.

i really like to have the ND before it got discontinue...liked the "cleaner" look on the dial,and with no cyclops...i say this is very individual preference though..Put them together side by side before the swap at the shop,than ask yourself which you prefer....best of luck!

shaggy · 18 March 2009, 10:43 PM

go for it mate

you will have forgoten about the £420 long before the smile subsides

stalenhag · 18 March 2009, 11:08 PM

If you want the date - go for the 16610! In my case, I chosed the Sub ND COSC due to the fact that it is more rare than the sub date. In addition, I have a date on my Nokia ;)

Xenophon · 18 March 2009, 11:10 PM

Like the grass being greener on the other side, a Rolex you don't have is always shinier. Keep the non date and buy a calendar

bodybump · 18 March 2009, 11:11 PM

Go for it buddy..you don't wanna end up sorry after you buy the one you didn't like..

Dan7 · 18 March 2009, 11:35 PM

I think you need to buy both of them.

karmatp · 18 March 2009, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenophon

Like the grass being greener on the other side, a Rolex you don't have is always shinier. Keep the non date and buy a calendar

So true

I would not say the sub date has a better bracelet, it's just a little different.

padi56 · 18 March 2009, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie

i really like to have the ND before it got discontinue...liked the "cleaner" look on the dial,and with no cyclops...i say this is very individual preference though..Put them together side by side before the swap at the shop,than ask yourself which you prefer....best of luck!

Who or what makes you think the non date sub has been discontinued its news to me.Around 12 months ago the SD was supposed to be discontinued and yet still producing with the V case date stamp today.Until you see it in black and white from Rolex never listen to hear say or rumours.

Lion · 18 March 2009, 11:42 PM

I would say for you to do what makes you happy. And only you know what that is!!! I own the Sub ND and thoroughly like it. When I wear this watch I just remember what day it is. And as said you do have your cell phone which will tell you what the date is!!!

chriseskew24 · 18 March 2009, 11:45 PM

I love haveing a date... But i also love the clean classic look of no date..
I guess im not much help. I own the 16610 and love it. I also use the date often.

carbon6 · 18 March 2009, 11:45 PM

I would return it now while the offer with your AD is still available. Otherwise every time you look at your watch, you'll be wondering about the date and be even more dissatisfied.

swish77 · 18 March 2009, 11:47 PM

For pure beauty you can't beat the ND Sub. The simplicity, the dial symmetry, the history. And since it sounds as if Rolex might be discontinuing the model, you might regret the swap. If you're a lover of watches for mostly aesthetic reasons, don't switch them. However, if you really NEED that date function you should do it. Or you could do what obsessed watch nuts like myself do: get one of each.

Serenty03 · 18 March 2009, 11:55 PM

I have both, but understand about needing the date.
The other option is the Sea Dweller the non-cyclops version of the sub.

postiff · 18 March 2009, 11:56 PM

That decision is totally up to you.

However it sounds as though you are not happy without the date function. I could not get by without my date. Ya sure you could use your phone or a calendar but that would require pulling something out of you pocket to look at every time you wanted to know the date. Why do that when you have a beautiful piece of hardware buckled to your wrist.

If your AD is willing to do it I think I would.

Good luck and keep us posted.

louie · 19 March 2009, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Who or what makes you think the non date sub has been discontinued its news to me.Around 12 months ago the SD was supposed to be discontinued and yet still producing with the V case date stamp today.Until you see it in black and white from Rolex never listen to hear say or rumours.

Padi,but i think they will be replaced by the super cases soon..already happened to the ss tt GMTs,gold/WG submariners next to come will be the ss subs...

Law4778 · 19 March 2009, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Who or what makes you think the non date sub has been discontinued its news to me.Around 12 months ago the SD was supposed to be discontinued and yet still producing with the V case date stamp today.Until you see it in black and white from Rolex never listen to hear say or rumours.

Thanks for the response guys, is this true you can get the old sea dweller new on a v case?

CharlieG · 19 March 2009, 12:45 AM

If your not happy then do it now while your AD is willing to do so.
Last thing you want is to be stuck with a watch you don't like.
Good luck!

GoldenBear · 19 March 2009, 12:50 AM

The cyclops and date are what I love the most about mine, well, in addition to the....

kcmo · 19 March 2009, 12:53 AM

I agree that if you're having second thoughts now, and your AD is willing, go ahead and change it. I personally prefer the date on my watch so the 16610 was an easy choice.

elijahenoch · 19 March 2009, 12:55 AM

First of all i want to give a shout to "louie" wat up louie?

second return it and donate the money to charity and buy a casio

third do what your heart says to do!

Ed Rooney · 19 March 2009, 01:03 AM

I made that swap. I had a 14060m for several months then bought a 16610. I still found myself wearing the 14060M as it was more comfortable.

Then I got my Sea-Dweller.

sea-dweller · 19 March 2009, 02:39 AM

The 14060 was my first, and I ended up getting both a 16610 and a 16613, while keeping my 14060.

JJ Irani · 19 March 2009, 02:41 AM

No date, no cyclops? No Rolex!!

You should have gone for the 16610 in the first place.

Good luck - JJ

18 March 2009, 09:07 PM	#1
Law4778 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Lee Location: UK Watch: Explorer II Posts: 21	Am i stupid to swap my week old 14060M for the 16610? Hey everyone i have had my new non date sub just over a week now, originaly i wasn't a lover of the cyclops on the date version so went with the non date, i am now finding myself drawn to the date version for two reasons, 1) I miss not having a date as i took it for granted before and have found i use it a few times a day. 2) I also now feel as though i have got the lesser model in terms of the 16610 coming with the better bracelet. I have been i contact with the AD i bought it from and i don't think there is any problem in me swapping it i just need to pay the extra £360 along with another £60 for a new warranty card for my watch. Anyone any thoughts on what to do, would just like some opinions, Cheers.

18 March 2009, 09:15 PM	#2
bardm "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Bård Location: Oslo - Norway Watch: None Posts: 1,014	I would change it for two reasons: 1) If you already now is dissatisfied it won't be better later. You obviously did the wrong choice (for you). 2.) I think the date function is very useful and I think the cyclops is something typical for a Rolex which is nice. __________________ Bård

18 March 2009, 09:15 PM	#3
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,062	Well if you want the date function then its quite simple get the 16610,although the SEL bracelet is a little bit more solid less rattle.Would not call it a better bracelet than the one on the 14060m, both are quite functional and very long lasting, movement wise both basically same . __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

18 March 2009, 10:16 PM	#7
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,526	Yes & no. __________________ E

18 March 2009, 11:10 PM	#11
Xenophon 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Xenophon Location: UK Posts: 2,728	Like the grass being greener on the other side, a Rolex you don't have is always shinier. Keep the non date and buy a calendar __________________ The sea! The sea! Θάλαττα! θάλαττα!

18 March 2009, 09:16 PM	#4
Mirx "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Watch: RLX Posts: 437	Well, if the date function is really important to you then, yes, a swapp for a 16610 definitely makes sense. I personally could not compromise on this feature as I use the date on daily basis. I wouldn't worry about the extra £420. It will be worthwhile in the long run. Good luck in your decision!

18 March 2009, 09:23 PM	#5
gettocard Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: EU Watch: them come and go.. Posts: 2,052	do it. We need to have a date on a watch,so that we can keep our brain free to do other productive stuff....like work hard to make money to spend on watches !!!

18 March 2009, 10:14 PM	#6
joeyk "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: uk/earth Watch: GMT IIc Posts: 698	i would if i were you . no point that you brought something you not satisfied, while you still can change it :-)

18 March 2009, 10:43 PM	#9
shaggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Brett Location: leeds,uk Watch: BLUE ARAB DAYTONA Posts: 691	go for it mate you will have forgoten about the £420 long before the smile subsides

18 March 2009, 11:08 PM	#10
stalenhag "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: planet earth Posts: 243	If you want the date - go for the 16610! In my case, I chosed the Sub ND COSC due to the fact that it is more rare than the sub date. In addition, I have a date on my Nokia ;)

18 March 2009, 11:11 PM	#12
bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,233	Go for it buddy..you don't wanna end up sorry after you buy the one you didn't like.. __________________

18 March 2009, 11:35 PM	#13
Dan7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: India Posts: 44	I think you need to buy both of them.

18 March 2009, 11:42 PM	#16
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	I would say for you to do what makes you happy. And only you know what that is!!! I own the Sub ND and thoroughly like it. When I wear this watch I just remember what day it is. And as said you do have your cell phone which will tell you what the date is!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

18 March 2009, 11:45 PM	#17
chriseskew24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Christopher Location: fort lauderdale Watch: Bunches Posts: 1,860	I love haveing a date... But i also love the clean classic look of no date.. I guess im not much help. I own the 16610 and love it. I also use the date often.

18 March 2009, 11:45 PM	#18
carbon6 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 135	I would return it now while the offer with your AD is still available. Otherwise every time you look at your watch, you'll be wondering about the date and be even more dissatisfied.

18 March 2009, 11:47 PM	#19
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,999	For pure beauty you can't beat the ND Sub. The simplicity, the dial symmetry, the history. And since it sounds as if Rolex might be discontinuing the model, you might regret the swap. If you're a lover of watches for mostly aesthetic reasons, don't switch them. However, if you really NEED that date function you should do it. Or you could do what obsessed watch nuts like myself do: get one of each.

18 March 2009, 11:55 PM	#20
Serenty03 Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: CT Posts: 205	I have both, but understand about needing the date. The other option is the Sea Dweller the non-cyclops version of the sub.

18 March 2009, 11:56 PM	#21
postiff Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Danny Location: Ca Watch: 116710LN Posts: 936	That decision is totally up to you. However it sounds as though you are not happy without the date function. I could not get by without my date. Ya sure you could use your phone or a calendar but that would require pulling something out of you pocket to look at every time you wanted to know the date. Why do that when you have a beautiful piece of hardware buckled to your wrist. If your AD is willing to do it I think I would. Good luck and keep us posted.

19 March 2009, 12:45 AM	#24
CharlieG "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Charlie Location: NY Posts: 1,135	If your not happy then do it now while your AD is willing to do so. Last thing you want is to be stuck with a watch you don't like. Good luck!

19 March 2009, 12:50 AM	#25
GoldenBear "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco Watch: Submariner Posts: 2,480	The cyclops and date are what I love the most about mine, well, in addition to the.... __________________ ____________________________________________ Rolex Blue TT Submariner Rolex SS Submariner Breitling Emergency Mission They are just watches, wear 'em. ____________________________________________

19 March 2009, 12:53 AM	#26
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	I agree that if you're having second thoughts now, and your AD is willing, go ahead and change it. I personally prefer the date on my watch so the 16610 was an easy choice.

19 March 2009, 12:55 AM	#27
elijahenoch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: ANTOINE Location: UPLAND,CA Watch: ROLEX G-114060M Posts: 318	First of all i want to give a shout to "louie" wat up louie? second return it and donate the money to charity and buy a casio third do what your heart says to do! __________________ GOD IS LOVE *REVELATION 13:16-18*

19 March 2009, 01:03 AM	#28
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	I made that swap. I had a 14060m for several months then bought a 16610. I still found myself wearing the 14060M as it was more comfortable. Then I got my Sea-Dweller.

19 March 2009, 02:39 AM	#29
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	The 14060 was my first, and I ended up getting both a 16610 and a 16613, while keeping my 14060. __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

19 March 2009, 02:41 AM	#30
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	No date, no cyclops? No Rolex!! You should have gone for the 16610 in the first place. Good luck - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

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