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Old 24 June 2022, 01:39 AM   #1
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Got my adjustable clasp for the Antarctique yesterday and installed it today. After 4 attempts I think I've got the bracelet ideally sized again. Will take it for a spin in the heat over the next couple days to make sure it's juuuuust right. I just love that everything is included to easily and perfectly size the bracelets on these watches.
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Old 24 June 2022, 05:24 AM   #2
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Got my adjustable clasp for the Antarctique yesterday and installed it today. After 4 attempts I think I've got the bracelet ideally sized again. Will take it for a spin in the heat over the next couple days to make sure it's juuuuust right. I just love that everything is included to easily and perfectly size the bracelets on these watches.
Glad you're happy, Matt.
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Old 24 June 2022, 11:30 PM   #3
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Glad you're happy, Matt.
Very happy Mike. Functionally the bracelet fit is just as good as an Oyster bracelet with Easylink. And it looks a lot nicer to boot.
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Old 24 June 2022, 02:05 AM   #4
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Sorry if this question may seem obvious but for my QDB it is a 22 mm x 18 mm (tapering at the buckle), could I just switch to an 18 mm strap?
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Sorry if this question may seem obvious but for my QDB it is a 22 mm x 18 mm (tapering at the buckle), could I just switch to an 18 mm strap?

Sure but you’d have an unsightly 4mm of gap between lugs and strap. What are you trying to accomplish?

I recommend A collected man for 22 x 18 straps.
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Old 24 June 2022, 04:14 AM   #6
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Sure but you’d have an unsightly 4mm of gap between lugs and strap. What are you trying to accomplish?

I recommend A collected man for 22 x 18 straps.
Just looking at getting a shorter strap because the standard one is slightly too long
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Old 24 June 2022, 05:09 AM   #7
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Just looking at getting a shorter strap because the standard one is slightly too long
Contact Jean Rousseau or Camille Fournet and get a custom strap in whatever leather suits your fancy.
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Old 24 June 2022, 10:43 AM   #8
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Contact Jean Rousseau or Camille Fournet and get a custom strap in whatever leather suits your fancy.
Jean Rousseau NYC makes some of our Czapek straps, they have the pattern and sizes and hole size for our rectangular tang on the buckle.

But they won't stamp them CZAPEK for you, if that matters.
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Old 24 June 2022, 04:50 AM   #9
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Sorry if this question may seem obvious but for my QDB it is a 22 mm x 18 mm (tapering at the buckle), could I just switch to an 18 mm strap?
You need a 22mm at the lugs, 18mm at the buckle, short strap.

If you're in USA, I have a couple few in stock, shoot your retailer or me a message.

If you're outside USA, contact your retailer.
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Old 25 June 2022, 08:14 AM   #10
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Noticed the Tiff dial too. Have a feeling it's coming so this is a tease.

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Old 26 June 2022, 01:30 AM   #11
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Noticed the Tiff dial too. Have a feeling it's coming so this is a tease.

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Be awesome if this became an inflight option to change for those with deposits.


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Old 26 June 2022, 07:58 PM   #12
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Noticed the Tiff dial too. Have a feeling it's coming so this is a tease.

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Fascinating! Might just be a prototype they made during the Tiffany turquoise hype though. I would actually be disappointed if Czapek would release this colour, they don’t need it and it would be just a “me too me too” release.
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Old 27 June 2022, 07:16 PM   #13
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Fascinating! Might just be a prototype they made during the Tiffany turquoise hype though. I would actually be disappointed if Czapek would release this colour, they don’t need it and it would be just a “me too me too” release.
Yes, it is just too similar to the OP. The Glacier Blue is quite adequate.
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Old 30 June 2022, 01:07 PM   #14
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Noticed the Tiff dial too. Have a feeling it's coming so this is a tease.

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Curious to know what thoughts are on this, versus the new Alpine Eagle Marine Blue dial - which is definitely striking!
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Old 30 June 2022, 02:40 PM   #15
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Curious to know what thoughts are on this, versus the new Alpine Eagle Marine Blue dial - which is definitely striking!
Alpine Eagle is a beautiful watch and my top choice among second tier of luxury watches (Laureato, Octo Finissimo, SeaQ). The maritime blue dial is also very striking and although close to the current trend of Tiffany blue color, it is still different enough. That being said, Alpine Eagle itself is a tier below compared to the likes of Antarctique and Streamliner. I own an Alpine Eagle and currently waiting for delivery of Glacier Blue Antarctique.

Also, I prefer the glacier blue over Tiffany blue as it is on the Passage Drake pattern and a different/non-common shade of blue.
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Old 30 June 2022, 06:41 PM   #16
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Curious to know what thoughts are on this, versus the new Alpine Eagle Marine Blue dial - which is definitely striking!
If we are only talking about opinions on the dial itself, the Marine dial is really a cut above; it's absolutely stunning in pictures and in person. Only my opinion: the dial doesn't bailout the overall design of the Alpine Eagle watch itself, which I don't find appealing for my personal taste, but that dial is special.
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Old 25 June 2022, 09:59 AM   #17
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But the order books are closed! And he said some people will already be waiting 3-4 years to get one?! Tiffany dial in 2026?!
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Old 26 June 2022, 02:30 AM   #18
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Ah yes, I forgot changes could be made.
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Old 26 June 2022, 02:30 AM   #19
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That’s a no-date so a new model, different movement maybe.
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Old 26 June 2022, 06:09 AM   #20
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That’s a no-date so a new model, different movement maybe.
This is NOT inside info, so don't take it as such, but I own an FdC chrono with no date, and it's nothing more than no-hole-in-the-dial. Crown first position still "changes the date."
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Old 26 June 2022, 02:32 AM   #21
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As Que Des Bergues owner do people see other models of Czapek watches also gaining more attention or will it pretty much be the Antarctique. Not sure how to best to define gaining more attention but I will leave that open ended for now. Interested in hearing people's thoughts.
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They certainly seem content taking a grand seiko approach with dial experimentation. This is not necessarily a bad thing as it’s contrarian to the take it or leave it approach of many Swiss brands. It’s a detractor for me but I’m boring.
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Old 28 June 2022, 05:49 AM   #23
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My Monochrome White just arrived after months of anticipation. Perhaps due to that I was a little underwhelmed the first day. Then after going away for the weekend and coming back I can say that it has really grown on me. The bracelet design is excellent in person and I appreciate the understated dial on this version in particular.

Echoing what others have said the only real critique I have so far is the connection between the bracelet and the watch is noticeably loose. While this isn't a huge deal, the way it lies on my wrist makes one corner of the bracelet stick up above the lug in and odd way.
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Congrats, look forward to your month on the wrist assessment.

I'm working on finding a watchmaker to create custom modded springbars that might firm up the interface.

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Congrats, look forward to your month on the wrist assessment.

I'm working on finding a watchmaker to create custom modded springbars that might firm up the interface.

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Sounds like this is a real issue? If you were giving feedback to Czapek, is this something they need to "fix"?
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Hmmm... ok, FIRST it is not a significant issue at all. Pretty please let's not make a mountain out of a teeny tiny thing.

It me, and those who know me realize i have a few of those lettered things (OCD, ADD, etc). Plus i like to tinker around... a lot. That's why my Muse/wife didn't want me to get a seconds hand with red tip, because i use Ferrari Red touch-up paint when calibrating things, so she sees these red bits, at times, on things like our pool equipment, etc where they've been calibrated and my desire to have visual confirmation.

How many here have adjusted the incoming valve system and know the exact water pressure into their home? On your outdoor swimming pool, have you analyzed the water flow from your pump to the return versus.... The list goes on...

It's not like your life depends on it if things go wrong, like using perfectly-implemented safety wire on your race car's brake system. Ever wonder what all that (usually yellow) paint is on your new car's transmission bolts and whatnot, that's there's for a reason.

So, again, it really is not that big a deal, it's me folks.


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Didn’t Mike mention Czapek might come with a stronger solution that would be backwards compatibele with current models? Have you heard anything about that?
i do recall they're working on something. But, again, this is really not that big an issue. Think we're making faaaaar more to this than it really is, plus for me a bit of extra angle makes it more comfortable.

But hey, if it ain't broke DOES NOT MEAN a lunatic like me is not going to f--- with it anyway... just to see, because i'm curious and it's there. FYI, as a child i took lots of things apart. My oldest brother did, too, yet he broke stuff, whereas i analyzed the assembly/operation and, at times, enhanced or made the assembly operate in a way that optimized or made the assembly smoother / more accurate.


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Could someone upload a picture so I can see how significant the issue is? Thanks.
What are we talking about here you ask? Here's how small a situation it really is? Mmmmmaybe a mm-ish at the assembly.

So guess it depends on how retentive you think it is, combined with it being part of an assembly that is really easy to work with (thank God, don't ask about trying to remove the oil dipstick assembly in a Ferrari 308GTS, what were those crazy Italians thinking as you need to remove that assembly to do other engine work more often than you'd think).


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Old 29 June 2022, 05:13 AM   #27
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Hmmm... ok, FIRST it is not a significant issue at all. Pretty please let's not make a mountain out of a teeny tiny thing.

It me, and those who know me realize i have a few of those lettered things (OCD, ADD, etc). Plus i like to tinker around... a lot. That's why my Muse/wife didn't want me to get a seconds hand with red tip, because i use Ferrari Red touch-up paint when calibrating things, so she sees these red bits, at times, on things like our pool equipment, etc where they've been calibrated and my desire to have visual confirmation.

How many here have adjusted the incoming valve system and know the exact water pressure into their home? On your outdoor swimming pool, have you analyzed the water flow from your pump to the return versus.... The list goes on...

It's not like your life depends on it if things go wrong, like using perfectly-implemented safety wire on your race car's brake system. Ever wonder what all that (usually yellow) paint is on your new car's transmission bolts and whatnot, that's there's for a reason.

So, again, it really is not that big a deal, it's me folks.




i do recall they're working on something. But, again, this is really not that big an issue. Think we're making faaaaar more to this than it really is, plus for me a bit of extra angle makes it more comfortable.

But hey, if it ain't broke DOES NOT MEAN a lunatic like me is not going to f--- with it anyway... just to see, because i'm curious and it's there. FYI, as a child i took lots of things apart. My oldest brother did, too, yet he broke stuff, whereas i analyzed the assembly/operation and, at times, enhanced or made the assembly operate in a way that optimized or made the assembly smoother / more accurate.




What are we talking about here you ask? Here's how small a situation it really is? Mmmmmaybe a mm-ish at the assembly.

So guess it depends on how retentive you think it is, combined with it being part of an assembly that is really easy to work with (thank God, don't ask about trying to remove the oil dipstick assembly in a Ferrari 308GTS, what were those crazy Italians thinking as you need to remove that assembly to do other engine work more often than you'd think).


So here's my pic, very minor.

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I tend to agree that it isn't as big of a deal. From the photo, unless you are looking for it, it doesn't seem noticeable. I guess it comes down to how picky you would want to be and that is completely okay since a lot of funds are being expended on the watch. We see on other threads about QC issues such as with Rolex and rehaut alignment as well. I am glad at the very least that Czapek is taking the feedback and looking at possible solutions if needed. That being said if anyone wants to give away their Antarctique over this, happy to take it off their hands :-)
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Didn’t Mike mention Czapek might come with a stronger solution that would be backwards compatibele with current models? Have you heard anything about that?

I think that the connection between the bracelet and case is the only main critique on the Antarctique. One could say it’s more comfortable as it is more flexible to your wrist and wrist movement, but it doesn’t look good, almost like it’s broken. I hope by the time my S comes in 2023 (or 2024) we at least have a choice.
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Didn’t Mike mention Czapek might come with a stronger solution that would be backwards compatibele with current models? Have you heard anything about that?

I think that the connection between the bracelet and case is the only main critique on the Antarctique. One could say it’s more comfortable as it is more flexible to your wrist and wrist movement, but it doesn’t look good, almost like it’s broken. I hope by the time my S comes in 2023 (or 2024) we at least have a choice.
Could someone upload a picture so I can see how significant the issue is? Thanks.
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You can see it in practically almost any real life picture of the watch on the wrist.
Someone mentioned in a previous message of this thread that new berets, that should solve/smooth this, are under supply.

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