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Stevie_Goodlife · 8 November 2020, 10:26 PM

Both are great picks, but at 2x retail on the 5167a, I’d go with the 15500.

The movement, bracelet and finishing on the AP are stellar.

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TankTom · 8 November 2020, 10:34 PM

I just cannot forgive how empty the 15500 dial looks compared to the 400 202 and 450

Toony · 8 November 2020, 10:57 PM

This is a no brainer for me and I have both watches. 15500.

fsprow · 8 November 2020, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TankTom

I just cannot forgive how empty the 15500 dial looks compared to the 400 202 and 450

One man's "empty" is anothers "less cluttered"

salnuaimi · 8 November 2020, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fsprow

One man's "empty" is anothers "less cluttered"

i love how its empty tbh

Vivalas · 8 November 2020, 11:46 PM

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This thread needs some pics

AP is the winner by far to me!!

You’re right it does

ragsk · 9 November 2020, 12:32 AM

I'm liking the 15500 Silver dial more and more. Looks gorgeous and is so usable.

salnuaimi · 9 November 2020, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ragsk

I'm liking the 15500 Silver dial more and more. Looks gorgeous and is so usable.

Agreed

Benzsiam · 9 November 2020, 08:01 AM

Both AP 15500st and PP 5167 at msrp are really worth to own.

AP 15500st at grey price isn't too bad, but PP 5167 is way overprice, not worth it.

ap1 · 9 November 2020, 09:48 AM

Rg aqua

jojosnr · 9 November 2020, 10:29 AM

personal views. AP but not at those prices unless it is blue. Aquanaut, get a spare tyre instead. Just kidding.

10XRolex · 9 November 2020, 12:59 PM

15500 since the 5167 is to small. And at the end of the day the Patek is not worth 40k.

Fishrus · 9 November 2020, 02:26 PM

At MSRP the PP. At grey prices, the AP.

sgwatchguy · 9 November 2020, 06:27 PM

15500/15400 any dial over the PP.

Against the 5167... Top up a little more and get the 15202 as many have already suggested. ($40k for a used 5167 is downright crazy IMO)

davyhk · 10 November 2020, 10:04 AM

I am a ap guy but still gonna go with 5167a unless u are comparing it with 15202st, I feel like 15500st is quite oversized and in long term it’s easy to get boring with it

2nastie · 10 November 2020, 10:20 AM

The one thing that bugs me about the 15500 or (or even on my wrist) 15400 is a bit too large. I don't on the 5167 but I've certainly tried them on before. 5167 is more confortable.

The thing to ask, is the year of the 5167. The model spans over a decade so I assume you are referring to getting a new or close to new 2019/2020.

kaiserphoenix · 10 November 2020, 05:49 PM

Im probably in the minority but the 5167A is one of the best modern "everyday" style watch that exists. Its thin, its 40mm, its automatic, accurate, and reliable. It comes on a rubber strap, its water resistant to 120m, 20m than a Rolex Explorer. The dial is stunning but discrete, the WG numerals are beautiful. Its light and comfortable AND holds its value. The movement is also adequately finished.

The 15500 is ofcourse a fine watch too but I feel its needlessly large at 41mm and not as "versatile" as a 5167.

Both watches can easily exist in a single collection like it does for me.

jay_kay · 10 November 2020, 06:48 PM

AP for me. Bracelet is another level.

macrowatch · 10 November 2020, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

Im probably in the minority but the 5167A is one of the best modern "everyday" style watch that exists. Its thin, its 40mm, its automatic, accurate, and reliable. It comes on a rubber strap, its water resistant to 120m, 20m than a Rolex Explorer. The dial is stunning but discrete, the WG numerals are beautiful. Its light and comfortable AND holds its value. The movement is also adequately finished.

The 15500 is ofcourse a fine watch too but I feel its needlessly large at 41mm and not as "versatile" as a 5167.

Both watches can easily exist in a single collection like it does for me.

I think it’s safe to say a 15407 would exist nicely in any collection!

srvrf · 10 November 2020, 11:24 PM

A lot of this also boils down to current and future collection plans. I wear a 5167/1A about three weeks a month. The other week or so a RG AP 25960. If the AP were steel, it probably would be more even. But I wanted a PM watch in my collection.

As a daily wear watch, I love the flexibility of wearing the Aquanaut on the bracelet or rubber strap. The bracelet is more comfortable to me than the AP because of the flexibility. In the summer when it’s on rubber, it’s so light on the wrist.

To me the AP bracelet is the most visually appealing bracelet out there. The way the light reflects off of the angled surfaces is a work of art. The texture of the dials is also top notch.

So I love both for different reasons. That’s why my two watch collection is an an Aquanaut and a Royal Oak. Can’t go wrong.

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Sulituan · 11 November 2020, 12:34 AM

Another POV, between the two, the 15500 wears significantly larger than the +1mm feels over the 5167. Keep that in mind.

spryken · 11 November 2020, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by davyhk

I am a ap guy but still gonna go with 5167a unless u are comparing it with 15202st, I feel like 15500st is quite oversized and in long term it’s easy to get boring with it

I have the same feeling of oversize watch with easily get boring

chiscott_29 · 11 November 2020, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by salnuaimi

i love how its empty tbh

Totally agree. I think the 15500 dial is perfect, but to each their own

salnuaimi · 11 November 2020, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chiscott_29

Totally agree. I think the 15500 dial is perfect, but to each their own

ts3 · 12 November 2020, 12:30 AM

I would set my sights on a 15202.

The 15500 wears too large for my taste, period. I also prefer the dial of the 15202. Even the 5167A wears quite large on my 6.6 inch wrists (certainly larger than my 5711/1A). I considered getting a preowned 5167A some 5+ years ago and did not like it enough to pull the trigger at 15k back then. Much less would I pay 40k now. It is an ok but not a great watch as far as I am concerned.

8 November 2020, 10:26 PM	#31
Stevie_Goodlife "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Esteban Location: New York Watch: Five Digit GMT Posts: 114	AP 15500 New .. or Used PP Aquanaut 5167 Both are great picks, but at 2x retail on the 5167a, I’d go with the 15500. The movement, bracelet and finishing on the AP are stellar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ IG: what_stevie_likes

9 November 2020, 08:01 AM	#39
Benzsiam 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Watch: Rolex/AP/PP/ALS Posts: 6,002	Both AP 15500st and PP 5167 at msrp are really worth to own. AP 15500st at grey price isn't too bad, but PP 5167 is way overprice, not worth it. __________________ Rolex: 116621, 126333, 126711CHNR, 114060, 116500LN White, 126660 JC, 126710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 116610LV, 126610LN, 126610LV, 116508 YG Green Dial, 124300 Turquoise, 126719BLRO Meteorite dial, 228235 Olive dial ,126755SARU, 116505 RG Black dial, 326934 Blue Sky D. AP: 15451ST Blue, 15500OR w/Bracelet, 14790SA, 14790BA, 26022BC(Salmon) PP: 5524R, 5712G, ALS: Time Zone 136.032, Cartier: WGSA0030, WSSA0061, YG Oct. 2965, Carree 2961, YG Carree, Tank W5000156 Breguet: 7137BA, MontBlanc: 109996"

9 November 2020, 02:26 PM	#43
Fishrus "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Real Name: Goh Location: Singapore Watch: 116622 Posts: 445	At MSRP the PP. At grey prices, the AP. __________________ Watches owned: Rolex GMT II 126710BLRO \| Patek Philippe 5205G \| Audemars Piguet 15500ST \| Rolex DJ 16233 \| Ball DM1036A

9 November 2020, 06:27 PM	#44
sgwatchguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: KP Jimmy Location: Singapore Watch: R/AP/FPJ/Hermès/et Posts: 6,597	AP 15500 New .. or Used PP Aquanaut 5167 15500/15400 any dial over the PP. Against the 5167... Top up a little more and get the 15202 as many have already suggested. ($40k for a used 5167 is downright crazy IMO) __________________

10 November 2020, 05:49 PM	#47
kaiserphoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London/Tokyo Watch: FPJ CO BL Posts: 1,709	Im probably in the minority but the 5167A is one of the best modern "everyday" style watch that exists. Its thin, its 40mm, its automatic, accurate, and reliable. It comes on a rubber strap, its water resistant to 120m, 20m than a Rolex Explorer. The dial is stunning but discrete, the WG numerals are beautiful. Its light and comfortable AND holds its value. The movement is also adequately finished. The 15500 is ofcourse a fine watch too but I feel its needlessly large at 41mm and not as "versatile" as a 5167. Both watches can easily exist in a single collection like it does for me. __________________ F.P.Journe Chronometre Optimum Black Label, Patek 5811G-001, Patek 5968A-001, Patek 5167A-001 IG: tokyo_watch_guy

8 November 2020, 10:34 PM	#32
TankTom Banned Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: UK Posts: 489	I just cannot forgive how empty the 15500 dial looks compared to the 400 202 and 450

8 November 2020, 10:57 PM	#33
Toony "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Tony Location: Gatchaman Posts: 1,873	This is a no brainer for me and I have both watches. 15500.

9 November 2020, 12:32 AM	#37
ragsk Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: USA Posts: 1,505	I'm liking the 15500 Silver dial more and more. Looks gorgeous and is so usable.

9 November 2020, 09:48 AM	#40
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,537	Rg aqua

9 November 2020, 10:29 AM	#41
jojosnr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Timbuktu Posts: 379	personal views. AP but not at those prices unless it is blue. Aquanaut, get a spare tyre instead. Just kidding.

9 November 2020, 12:59 PM	#42
10XRolex 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,596	15500 since the 5167 is to small. And at the end of the day the Patek is not worth 40k.

10 November 2020, 10:04 AM	#45
davyhk "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 29	I am a ap guy but still gonna go with 5167a unless u are comparing it with 15202st, I feel like 15500st is quite oversized and in long term it’s easy to get boring with it

10 November 2020, 10:20 AM	#46
2nastie "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: YVR Watch: Time Only Posts: 2,332	The one thing that bugs me about the 15500 or (or even on my wrist) 15400 is a bit too large. I don't on the 5167 but I've certainly tried them on before. 5167 is more confortable. The thing to ask, is the year of the 5167. The model spans over a decade so I assume you are referring to getting a new or close to new 2019/2020.

10 November 2020, 06:48 PM	#48
jay_kay "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Barrowford Watch: Tudor Black Bay 54 Posts: 1,699	AP for me. Bracelet is another level. __________________ Rolex Explorer 214270, Omega Speedmaster '1957 Relaunch' 3594.50.00, Panerai Luminor 1950 PAM00127-E, Panerai Radiomir 1936 PAM00249-I, Panerai Mare Nostrum PAM00716-T, Panerai PAM00785-Q Set, Panerai Luminor Black Seal PAM00594-Q, Panerai Luminor Daylight PAM00604-Q, Tudor Black Bay 54 79000N, Heuer Carrera Re-Edition CS3113, Hamilton Military W10 & TAG Heuer F1

10 November 2020, 11:24 PM	#50
srvrf 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Steve Location: Indiana Watch: PP/AP/VC Posts: 2,158	A lot of this also boils down to current and future collection plans. I wear a 5167/1A about three weeks a month. The other week or so a RG AP 25960. If the AP were steel, it probably would be more even. But I wanted a PM watch in my collection. As a daily wear watch, I love the flexibility of wearing the Aquanaut on the bracelet or rubber strap. The bracelet is more comfortable to me than the AP because of the flexibility. In the summer when it’s on rubber, it’s so light on the wrist. To me the AP bracelet is the most visually appealing bracelet out there. The way the light reflects off of the angled surfaces is a work of art. The texture of the dials is also top notch. So I love both for different reasons. That’s why my two watch collection is an an Aquanaut and a Royal Oak. Can’t go wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 November 2020, 12:34 AM	#51
Sulituan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Clould 9 Posts: 122	Another POV, between the two, the 15500 wears significantly larger than the +1mm feels over the 5167. Keep that in mind.

12 November 2020, 12:30 AM	#55
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,517	I would set my sights on a 15202. The 15500 wears too large for my taste, period. I also prefer the dial of the 15202. Even the 5167A wears quite large on my 6.6 inch wrists (certainly larger than my 5711/1A). I considered getting a preowned 5167A some 5+ years ago and did not like it enough to pull the trigger at 15k back then. Much less would I pay 40k now. It is an ok but not a great watch as far as I am concerned.

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